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Old 11-20-03, 09:23 PM   #1
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Is Toronto the most "bike popular" city in North America???

Here it is, late November, temperature is +8 C, 45 F. I was in downtown Toronto tonight to pick up my MS BikeTour jersey from the summer, I couldn't believe the number of cyclists out and about!! In about 15 minutes of downtown driving at around 8:00 pm, I saw about 25 cyclists on the road (about half with lights, half without) and there must have been another 25 or 30 bikes parked on sidewalks. Most of the travellers were singles, saw a couple of groups of 2 or 3.
I don't know if the parked bikes were shoppers or drinkers or late workers, but there was a lot of them!
Does anywhere else in North America have this kind of bike activity downtown this late in the year? I've been to Ottawa and saw lots of bikes around, but nothing like Toronto on a Thursday night!
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You've got definite competition in Portland Oregon.
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Old 11-21-03, 05:09 PM   #3
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i live near ottawa (quebec side)humm, i wish more people biked in this kind of temperatures -3 to 10 C.
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I was going to say Portland too, but also think of places like Seattle, San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco (heck, all of California), New York, Chicago...

In Chicago, we're having difficulty finding bike parking lately (or at least, I have). The bike racks are getting pretty congested and it just seems to get worse every year, which is a good thing, in my opinion.

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yes, specially on a friday night....
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Boulder, CO and the surrounding area/towns. I was amazed when visiting a friend in Longmont, about 15 miles NE of Boulder with all the bikes in and around all the local towns. We never failed to see dozens of other riders on every ride we did, regardless of what direction we went from Longmont. Probably equal in numbers to the cars we saw. I like it!
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I think Vancouver would give a run for the money. I have lived in both places and I don't think TO has the edge over Vancouver...sorry
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I would have to say, Victoria beats Vancouver. Both have year 'round cycling weather and bike friendly streets, but Victoria is compact enough that a car isn't needed. It also has a higher percentage of daily commuters (5.5% vs. 3.3%)
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And Victoria has the Victoria Transportation Policy Institute (VTPI): http://www.vtpi.org/
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No competition here in Toledo.
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I would have to say, Victoria beats Vancouver. Both have year 'round cycling weather and bike friendly streets, but Victoria is compact enough that a car isn't needed. It also has a higher percentage of daily commuters (5.5% vs. 3.3%)
Never been to victoria. For some reason I haven't made it north of whistler and south of Van...I am stuck in my own little area haha
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You have to go to Victoria, it's great there. The two places that I would want to live (if I somehow came into a bunch of money) are Jasper and Victoria. Perhaps Jasper in the summer and Victoria in the winter... it's nice to dream.
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Victoria in the winter... it's nice to dream.
I don't know if Victoria or Vancouver qualify. The question was kind of leaning towards places that have winter! (weather)
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I don't know if Victoria or Vancouver qualify. The question was kind of leaning towards places that have winter! (weather)
Hey! That's not true! Just last Saturday, there were reports that we may get some snow. Let me tell you, there was panic here!
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You have to go to Victoria, it's great there. The two places that I would want to live (if I somehow came into a bunch of money) are Jasper and Victoria. Perhaps Jasper in the summer and Victoria in the winter... it's nice to dream.
Mine would be summer on the shore or whistler and winter on the shore or Victoria
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hi.. first of all.. the last thing you want to do is put the word TORONTO in the same sentence as "the most"...lol ppl just don't like the city- which is too bad. i find it fascinating..
i live right downtown and the cyclists are very abundant here, can't say for vancouver or some other cities other than montreal.. but i cycle in -20F so why can't others only city that i saw few cyclists.. even in the nice weather was in pittsburgh.. went there for two years monthly and finally saw two roadies on a hill- not in the midst of the city- in a burb.. otherwise you had to go to the parks/trails to see any cyclists.
i walk to work- 30 minutes and on the average see 20- 30 cyclists that are not messagers this is at 6 am weekdays... if you go to the lakeshore- there are tooooooooooo many at all times and in all types of weather.
most teams start north of the city- every saturday / sunday morning you can see a cluster headed up stouffville way- or through aurora to king city.. nice rides.
ottawa has a lot of cyclists.. but i didn't observe as many in the downtown core as in other cities(montreal and toronto)
always wanted to go to seattle...
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Seattle is hosting BikeSummer 2004, check it out...
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Thanks for saying nice things about victoria,rode downtown n' back,6pm saw 60 or so bikes- our prob is rain and elders with cataracts thicker than mtb tires who still drive cars-w've got a new civic trail called the galloping goose for transit along water- no exhaust though its most pavement and you gotta share with other sport.j
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hi.. first of all.. the last thing you want to do is put the word TORONTO in the same sentence as "the most"...lol ppl just don't like the city- which is too bad. i find it fascinating..
I am one of those people. Lived near there for 25 years and it would require a large income (even then I would probably turn it down) to move back. Onterrible is not a place for me ...
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