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Old 12-06-03, 05:40 PM   #26
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my buddy likes to chase down cars that buzz the group..or just us. he's been a cat2, so he gets after it.

He usually catches up to them while they are at a light, and in his best Jim Carey loud voice yells...."THAT, SIR!! WAS IMPRESSIVE!!"

I never stop loving that one.


there is also a better gesture than giving the finger, but it is too rude to say or explain here. and this one has no come back. it leaves 'em paralyzed.
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Old 12-07-03, 04:44 AM   #27
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Have you actually tried reporting these things to the police? You might be surprised. Even if they don't issue a ticket, there's every chance they'll at least phone the guy and give him a lecture. That may well be all that's needed to stop him doing it again.
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I have tried getting the police involved with instances like this.

The reaction from the police?

Police: Was there anyone killed?

Me: No....

Police: Was there anyone hurt?

Me: Ah, no......

Police: Was there any property damage?

Me: Well......no.....

Police: Then we can't do anything.

Me: So you guys don't get involved UNTIL someone is hurt or killed?

Police: Yes

Me: Is that proper policing?

Police: Sir, nothing has happened that we can action on, its your word against his.

Me: Oh yes, I call you guys after my bike ride and make up some bull story about someone who almost killed me, just cause I am bored and have no life and I need the attention.

I won't go on anymore about the conversation, but the Police are useless.

Sorry Chris L. I AM glad it works for you though.

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Well, when I commuted years ago, this one guy would come as close as he could to me when he passed, and unnecessarily so because this was on a 2 lane road with good visibility with very light traffic in an obvious effort to intimidate me. So I got his license number and reported him to the police. They went and talked to him and he admitted doing it. The police didn't issue any citation and as I recall, it did not change his behavior that much. I did not pursue the matter. But this was in a conservative rural area where the police were not really proactive about such things and they did make a bit of an effort, ineffective as it was. I would think in a more progressive area, that guy would probably have gotten a citation or a good tongue lashing.

There is an advantage to reporting the driver though. If we did that routinely, pretty soon certain drivers would amass a large number of complaints. If you really wanted to be clever, you could call their insurance company and inform the carrier of their policy holder's less then sterling behavior. I imagine the carrier would want a bit more cash out of them. If they ever did hit someone, with that kind of record of habitual harrassment, the cyclists could really raise a stink and probably get some action on future complaints.
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Old 12-07-03, 10:47 AM   #28
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Carry a gun (so it's visible). It works for a friend of of my coach.
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If you really wanted to be clever, you could call their insurance company and inform the carrier of their policy holder's less then sterling behavior. I imagine the carrier would want a bit more cash out of them. If they ever did hit someone, with that kind of record of habitual harrassment, the cyclists could really raise a stink and probably get some action on future complaints.

Excellent idea. But how does one go about finding out what insurance company they are with? I doubt very much the police will give out that information such as this persons, name, address and insurance company.

Police always assume that the cyclist (me) is at fault anyway. Why, the nerve of me riding on the road blocking traffic, I obviously deserved it. I was also weaving around alot to, like most cyclists, ignoring stops signs and such, being reckless. I got it comin to me.

NAh, police are hopeless, I gotta be killed first, THEN I can call it in.

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Carry a gun (so it's visible). It works for a friend of of my coach.

I am sure that would work in the States. 11,000 per year killed by handguns I believe....?

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there is also a better gesture than giving the finger, but it is too rude to say or explain here. and this one has no come back. it leaves 'em paralyzed.

Oh, come on.... we're all friends here. You can tell us. Or at least give us a hint. For example.... does wearing bib shorts make it more difficult to perform said gesture?
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Police always assume that the cyclist (me) is at fault anyway. Why, the nerve of me riding on the road blocking traffic, I obviously deserved it. I was also weaving around alot to, like most cyclists, ignoring stops signs and such, being reckless. I got it comin to me.

NAh, police are hopeless, I gotta be killed first, THEN I can call it in. Digger
Yeah, well this is because almost all police officers are motorized these days, so they think like motorists, and not like bicyclists. What really irritates me is that even when a motorist seriously injures or kills a bicyclist, and the police determine that said motorist is at fault -- even then -- the motorist rarely gets cited, and if they do it is usually for something minor, like running a stop sign, instead of for vehicular homicide or similar CRIME. If motorists were more accountable, I think they just might behave an itsy-bitsy bit better towards bicyclists. To borrow a phase from the motorcyclists' rights movement: "Kill a Bicyclist, Go to Jail". The laws work this way in many countries in Europe, and I think that the drivers generally behave better towards bicyclists because of it.
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I prefer a big thumbs up. Then the parking lot incident goes like this:
Dude, why did you flip me off? I was giving you props for your mad driving skills.
You @%%$ cyclists need to stay the #%@ off the road!!
But then I could'nt witness incredible driving talent like yours. And discourse like this you just don't get every where.
&%#$ you skinny %$#^!!
Fantastic, your parents are no doubt proud of you, the fruit of their loins.
You call me a fruit you %$@$%^% *&^!!
No doubt, your innate radar of such things is working to perfection.

As much as I enjoy a good yelling match, it is so much more fun to play the role of affable yet obtuse cyclist. It is hysterical to watch someone blow a gasket while you are being "freindly" to them.

LOL!

I second the Rev's suggestion. It is soooo fun to watch people get more pissed off at themselves when the person they think they are angry about keeps getting more and more kind and polite with them.

Gotta watch out for sarcasm--but alot of the time it is over their heads. . .!
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