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    MSN Money Article - What if gas cost $10 a gallon?

    Did anyone read this article? I couldn't believe it when I read it and discovered there was not a single reference to using a bicylce. They even talk about scooters and inline skates, but no bikes! One of the tag lines for it is "Forget pizza delivery" - ha! You mean we couldn't have pizza delivered by bike?

    I sent a note to the staff...let's get real.

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    You cant haul tons of food by bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChappyOnIce View Post
    Did anyone read this article? I couldn't believe it when I read it and discovered there was not a single reference to using a bicylce. They even talk about scooters and inline skates, but no bikes! One of the tag lines for it is "Forget pizza delivery" - ha! You mean we couldn't have pizza delivered by bike?

    I sent a note to the staff...let's get real.
    I noticed that too. Not a single mention of bicycling. Oh well, let it be our little secret.

    When everybody is walking an unknowing, we can be in the fast lane on our bicycles.

    First to the buffet lines.

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    Whoever wrote that has obviously not done his/her research, and has very US-centric blinders on. It's $10/gallon, or very close to it, in the UK already ...... and life is proceeding as normal there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post
    Whoever wrote that has obviously not done his/her research, and has very US-centric blinders on. It's $10/gallon, or very close to it, in the UK already ...... and life is proceeding as normal there.
    Indeed. Let's face it, if lack of oil threatens to starve Americans, you can almost be assured that our military will be employed to find a pragmatic solution to securing oil supplies even if it is done the old fashioned way (kinda like the George Bush way, but not quite as PC).

    Don't panic, folks. You will still be getting pepparoni on your pizza and milk for your coffee even if oil prices stay crazy.
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    $10 gas would be the end of life as we know it for us... we'll be paying a lot more for food (which is OUR fuel) for one thing... not to mention modern medicine, banking, defense, and oh yeah those computers we're all surfing BF on, among MANY other things, are dependent on cheap and plentiful oil

    not to mention economic recession on a scale that would make the Depression look like a boom time, which I guarantee will result in a lot of angry and desperate people who will readily resort to violence... expect massive civil unrest also.

    I swear some people on here act like life with $10 gas is going to be this happy awesome bicycle utopia... I wish, but it won't, chances are you'd be lucky if you still even had a bike or anything else for that matter.

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    Perhaps an end to wasting energy and living beyond our means as we know it, Other parts of the world have dealt with high energy prices and high costs of living for many decades. We will adapt like others have.

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    we aren't other parts of the world though... we're America, a nation full of selfish ****s who buy the biggest SUV possible "because we can" (an actual explanation I've heard from many SUV owners)

    this country will NOT adapt to $10 gas, I can pretty much guarantee that. some of us (including most people here I can imagine) will, most of us won't. the majority of people in this country will be stepping on each other like roaches when push comes to shove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post
    It's $10/gallon, or very close to it, in the UK already ...... and life is proceeding as normal there.
    Isn't their money worth twice what ours is?
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    Well, my laptop is too crippled to access that article, but I will agree with Machka about the UK example, though of course, there are people in the the USA who live long distances from farms, refineries, ports, etc., so a bit more adjustment will be needed, as some will either need to pay higher transport costs, or move closer to sources of supplies. The whole UK is tiny compared to some states in the USA.

    As for authors of financial magazine articles being clueless, that is nothing new. I recently did an internet search of my name, and found an older article that used an incident in my life in the early 1990's to make a point at the opening of the article. The author's interpretation of that incident was so warped that it was really total fiction, in my eyes.
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    If gas got to $10 a gallon, we would start building and electrifying railroads like mad. It's tough to beat 300-500 passenger-miles per gallon.

    Quote Originally Posted by mark9950 View Post
    You cant haul tons of food by bike.
    Maybe not, but here's half a ton by bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldRoadGuy View Post
    Isn't their money worth twice what ours is?
    Yes, but they get paid half as much of it.

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    UK average diesel price:
    1.26 per litre -> 4.77 per US gallon -> $9.44 per US gallon

    Even with prices at this level people are driving SUVs and twin cab pickups. Although they are paying a lot for the privilege.

    Freight transport is suffering though, there's not much alternative when it comes to transporting goods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by o-dog View Post
    we aren't other parts of the world though... we're America, a nation full of selfish ****s who buy the biggest SUV possible "because we can" (an actual explanation I've heard from many SUV owners)

    this country will NOT adapt to $10 gas, I can pretty much guarantee that. some of us (including most people here I can imagine) will, most of us won't. the majority of people in this country will be stepping on each other like roaches when push comes to shove.
    They won't have a choice...they will either adapt or suffer. What is amazing to me is the knee jerk reaction of most people to the cost of fuel. People need to get a grip and realize that having everday low prices and cheap fuel, as well as a lifestyle supported by it IS NOT A RIGHT and it is going to be taken away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post
    Whoever wrote that has obviously not done his/her research, and has very US-centric blinders on. It's $10/gallon, or very close to it, in the UK already ...... and life is proceeding as normal there.
    I sort of agree, but the UK is the size of Texas, as you know, size matters, the d i s t a n c e s are much greater.
    Not too much to say here

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    Texas will swallow all of France's land area; the UK is much smaller than Texas.
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    What you grocerie shop from a store acroos texas?

    So many simple answers that are ALREADY in place.
    espically where i live i know many are not so fortunate.
    Telecommuting,
    Bike commuting,
    RAIL comuniting

    UPS, Fed EX, USPS Internet shopping you dont need a car they bring it to you.
    Peapod, Schwanns, they deliver groceries via internet.

    you need a car why?
    2 years i am getting rid of one. of the 2 i have simpley because i found that i can live without a car 2 years tooo late.
    Cars make you weak.

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    Rail commuting requires fuel. UPS, Fedex, and the USPS use fuel to make their deliveries. I don't think the point was so much that all Texans NEED a car, but that l-o-n-g distances mean that the cost of getting things from a port of entry or distribution center to remote areas is more of a factor, and that will require more adjustments as fuel prices rise. As for home delivery of groceries, well, that may exist in major metropolitan areas, where the customer base is dense, but to bring that into rural areas will co$t each customer relatively more, especially outside the San Antonio-DFW-Houston triangle.
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    That train commercial claims it can haul like 2,000 tons of stuff on very little gas.

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