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    Good idea.I can squeeze another 12,i think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris L
    Just last week I was riding in a Strathgordon summer, as I recall the temp was about the same, the wind 60km/h, and it was pouring rain. Oh yeah, that involved six mountain passes in two days.

    I have to question this statement. She stated 1C in her post (and that was the daily high, so for the most part it was probably under 0 C for most of the day) and you say the temps were the same. At those temps, how do you get rain? Aren't you worried about ice? Or worse, black ice? I can understand that at around 0C sometimes you get rain, sometimes snow, and sometimes a mix. So it is possible you had pouring rain. But then you stated 6 mountain passes. The temps in the mountains are always lower. So it must have been snowing up there, or at least there was ice on the road. You seriously go up and down mountains with snow or ice on the road?

    I can't help but think the temps in your situation were a good 5 or more C degrees higher.

    I think Koffee makes a very valid point about riding in sub zero C temps. Unless you are a very experienced rider who knows what they are doing, you need to be very careful. Not to mention, you need to have the right clothing, cycle, and tires. Personally, when I cycle in sub zero temps, my average speed drops 3 to 5 mph, which can add as much as 3 hours onto my century time. Being out in sub zero temps longer than 2 or 3 hours in very difficult.

    But you are right, we can all watch for a good day and take advantage of it if it comes along. Course, that would mean just hoping on the bike and going at a moments notice. I usually like to plan my centuries.



    A funny story: I was visiting family in Wisconsin (which is just north of where Koffee is) and someone there asked me how cold it gets in the DC area. I said, "Well we were in the low 30's for about a month last winter". They all busted out laughing. He said "Hell, we were at 30 below for about 3 months straight". They were talking about F of course.

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    P.B., you make some valid points about the temperature. However, the temperature may well have been just as low as Chris has stated. Given this is Tasmania, any "mountains" are really just hills compared to the stuff in North America, so temperature change is likely not as high as you'd expect. Also the temperature on that day is not the norm, and likely ground temperatures are well and truly high enough to prevent formation of ice.

    All of that aside, Chris is suggesting a club challenge, not a politically correct competition. His club is open to people who want to complete a non-trainer, outdoors century ride every month of the year. He wants something to motivate him to do this, and is inviting others to join him. Those in the far north may not be able to do this - if so, they just stay out of this club and propose their own.

    I'd hazard a guess that almost any cyclist contemplating a century (let alone one per month) has enough experience and common sense to know to only attempt this when conditions are within their abilities.

    Good luck with the club, Chris. I won't be joining this year, but might be up for it in 2005!

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    I like how you put that, booyah. I felt kinda bad, watching where this thread was going. kinda surprised, too, to tell ya the truth. just like you said, people who've spent enough time in the saddle to do centuries ought to recognise when it's just dumb to dare the elements. but then, you never know ...

    so, how about it, for those people who're in a good position to do this?
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    Don't feel bad... Chris just earned himself a free trip to Chicago. He'll be all saddled up to ride in our good weather in February. I think he done reeeeeeal good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris L
    Alright so who's up for this? The challenge is to ride at least one imperial century in every calendar month of 2004.
    Well, this is a great challenge. I was keen to note that you live at the Gold Coast - I live near Beenleigh myself and ride with a Brisbane Club (the BBTA).

    I have only done 2 imperial centuries, but countless metric ones. I really want to get my miles up this year - I am trying to lose weight, and I simply need to get the miles in.

    Do you have a set club ride? Or do you simply do ad-hoc rides when you feel like it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koffee Brown
    Don't feel bad... Chris just earned himself a free trip to Chicago. He'll be all saddled up to ride in our good weather in February. I think he done reeeeeeal good...
    I'm hanging out for next Christmas instead. February is normally one of our wettest months, and I don't want to miss out on those tropical downpours - nor do I have any desire to miss out on the passionfruit season, which is just getting underway.

    Incidentally, can I just ask one or two members in this thread exactly what gives? I really don't see any difference between this challenge or any of the others I posted last year. However, this one seems to be attracting posts about how "dangerous" this might be, or about "questioning one's claims" and all sorts of other rubbish. Honestly, does nobody have enough respect for their fellow forum members to allow them to make a judgement of whether the conditions post a threat to their health? I didn't realise these challenges needed a standard disclaimer.

    Those who do not feel as though conditions in their part of the world will allow them to attempt this are under no obligation to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kneighbour
    Do you have a set club ride? Or do you simply do ad-hoc rides when you feel like it?
    I've managed to squeeze a couple of centuries into the Bicycle Gold Coast calendar in the first few months of the year -- beyond that, I'll simply decide when the time gets close. I'm looking at pulling out one in the closing weeks of January this year, but it won't be this weekend.

    Incidentally, if you can make it to Mudgeeraba at 6am Sunday Morning (Firth Park), I'm heading for Springbrook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris L
    nor do I have any desire to miss out on the passionfruit season, which is just getting underway.
    Mmmmmmm...... passionfruit on top of a pavlova.... man I miss that!

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    Ok, Chris... you had your chance. Enjoy your wetlands thingie out there, but don't say I didn't offer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris L
    Incidentally, if you can make it to Mudgeeraba at 6am Sunday Morning (Firth Park), I'm heading for Springbrook.
    Not a hope - much too hilly for my liking.

    I have spent a few hours thinking about this challenge, and think it is a great idea. I have mentioned it with my Club (the BBTA) rides co-ordinator, and it seems like a good idea to him as well.

    Our club has already planned a few 160km rides for the next few months, plus a 300km ride in May. I intend to take up your challenge and to this end I have planned my first ride on 31 Jan 04

    7.30am GATTON GALLOP (IMPERIAL CENTURY) 160km
    Start Location : Dinmore RWS, Mason Street
    Here is a fast, flat Imperial Century out through scenic Fernvale and Lowood to
    Gatton. This is VERY flat barely any hills at all, so it will be fairly fast. A good ride to achieve your best time yet (expect well under 7 hours with speedo average over 25kph).
    http://rides.simcomcity.com

    Currently this ride is planned for
    Saturday 31 Jan 04
    Sunday 22 Feb 04
    Sunday 21 Mar 04

    While these are organised BBTA rides, they are completely free and open to all comers. Route maps will be provided. Simply show up on the day, or email me to let me know if you like. For the other rides (ie in April and May), you will need to look at the BBTA rides calendar. The BBTA website is at http://www.bbta-au.org for those that might be interested.

    I would certainly love to see any Brisbane/Gold Coast/Sunshine Coast riders who want to do these rides as well..the more the better!

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    I'll give those some thought in the coming months, although personally I like my rides a little more hilly than that -- we'll just have to see how it pans out.
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    If it was not for record low temps here in the northeast and if I had a bike that is trail/road ready I'd go for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koffee Brown

    Anyway, I still say be safe... if you're aiming for the mileage, and you're just in crappy weather that's NOT safe, ll I ask is that you be safe when doing your mileage. There may be some riders that throw caution to the wind and ride in the thunderstorms, blizzards, extreme cold with wind chill factors, earthquakes, apocolypse-type events , but for those riding more realistically, practice some caution, that's all.

    Koffee
    I totally concur C B. Think "Hypothermia" a dangerous condition that can strike without you being aware of. Exposure to low temps for many hours if you are riding solo in remote areas and you may not return to record you exploit...

    Beware!!!!!

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    I think this is a great challenge and I wish I could join in it. I normally do 3 or 4 centuries per year, but those are all organized events. I'm sure I could try doing a few solo centuries during those months when nothing is organized. However, the weather doesn't cooperate for 2 or 3 months where I live. In temps over 40 F, I normally do 20 to 80 miles per ride. This past month, I'm fighting just to do 20 miles. I'm putting everything I own on (clothes-wise) and by the end of these rides (which are less than 2 hours), I can barely feel my hands or feet. And I've got some halfway decent cold weather gear.

    I think, at least for me, it just feels like many parts of the world are excluded from being able to do this challenge due to the weather. That's just my personal take on it. If I lived down in Florida, I'd be all over this challenge.

    Just my two cents, and sorry to come off as disrespectful to the thread starter. That wasn't my intention at all.

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    IN! If I have a pal!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris L
    Alright so who's up for this?
    I'm in, if someone in the Chicagoland area cares to join me for a few. I've never done a century, but I'm sure I could. 50 US miles is a chore, but a regular ride for me.

    I have scheduled 2 cents in a row, a friday and a saturday in march, so i could use the miles.

    Contrary to what Koffee says, although I agree with the safety concern, it can be done in Chicago. I know many bike messengers who ride all day every day. Albeit, they stop and go inside for deliveries, pick ups.

    I also know hunters who sit outside for 8 hours without moving one bit.

    Also, http://www.presidentschallenge.org/ will log your time/miles for free. And for US citizens, give out free medals from the gubmint at certain milestones.


    So anyone interested in meeting me in the greater Chicago area for a century, drop me a note!

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    ps I work roughly 9-5 M-F, but need very little sleep, so a 6 pm start may work if you give me enough notice to get in the right mindset, and prep the bike equip for such an endeavour. Natch weekends are a go!

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    Well guys, I'm now on the board. 225km yesterday in sweltering heat, battling a mild case of heat-stroke and a bee/wasp sting right at the end. Incidentally, I backed it up with 103 more this morning, and felt strangely good toward the end of it for some reason.
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    uh ... damn! that's pretty great! congrats!

    it's 31 dgF (-1 dgC) and freezing rain right now, so I've got a fire going and the family's coming over for lunch. and now I feel like a slacker, thanks very much! ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ngateguy
    Imperial is that what we call a metric (100k) century?
    Um . . . NO! An Imperial century is 100 miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris L
    Alright so who's up for this? The challenge is to ride at least one imperial century in every calendar month of 2004.
    Well, I did it last year, including a February century which was done in temperatures WAY below freezing.

    This year, however, it doesn't look like I'm going to be able to do it. Unfortunately, not only are the temperatures bitterly cold, but there's A LOT more snow, and the roads are extremely icy. I wouldn't mind so much doing a century in bitterly cold temps, it's those icy streets that worry me. I don't have studded tires, and even if I did, I would be very worried about the drivers of those motorized vehicles . . . I see them sliding all over the place out there.

    I'm quite disappointed that this won't likely work out for me this year, but on the other hand, I do have to think about safety. I have many more goals I want to accomplish this year, and being run over by a motorized vehicle won't get me any closer to them.

    But . . . I'm still sorta hoping for a miraculously warm weather front to come through next week so I can ride next weekend . . . it would be a miracle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P. B. Walker
    I think, at least for me, it just feels like many parts of the world are excluded from being able to do this challenge due to the weather. That's just my personal take on it. If I lived down in Florida, I'd be all over this challenge.
    Well, I did it here in Manitoba, Canada last year, including a VERY cold February century (highs of -22C)! I don't think that many parts of the world are necessarily excluded all together, nor are they excluded every year. It depends on the determination of the rider to ride in those conditions. Ever heard of ice bike events, or the Iditabike?

    This year, however, as I said in a previous post, it doesn't look like I'll be able to participate simply because of the quantity of ice on the roads. If the roads were clearer, I'd be out there in a flash!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koffee Brown
    Dood come on out to Chicago and do that century. You'll soon find what I mean by compromising safety. Tomorrow, the high is supposed to be 1 C, and that's before factoring in wind chill. By the way, the wind is supposed to get as high as 37 km/hr. This is what I would call a semi-good day for us. God help the Canadians, who get worse weather than us!

    Unless you can make consessions for those riding in the harsh winter climates, I think it's more than fair to say that if you've got bad weather, and you're feeling like your safety is compromised, you can be able to do your miles on the trainer. Besides, the way most people talk, it's like those 100 miles would be much harder on a trainer than riding outside anyway!

    Koffee
    If we had any days this month where the high was 1C, I'd have been out there doing my century this month!! That would be like spring!!

    As a Canadian who lives in much worse conditions than that during the winter, I have to disagree with you. The century a month should be a real century (100 miles), outside, on a bicycle riding on the road, or trails or whatever . . . not a trainer. Anyone can ride a trainer for a century distance! It's called a century-a-month challenge because it has to be a challenge!!

    I did at least one century each month of 2003. Even in bitterly cold, and miserable conditions. If I can do that, then others can do their centuries at +1C.

    This year it doesn't look like I'll be able to get my January century in because the road conditions are too icy for the cars, let alone my bicycle. While I'd love for someone to tell me that it would be OK for me to do my century on my trainer, I realize that would be "cheating" and so I'm reluctantly and disappointedly willing to pass on the century-a-month challenge for 2004 (but if something happens to allow me to ride next Saturday, I'll be out there!! )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machka
    I don't have studded tires, and even if I did, I would be very worried about the drivers of those motorized vehicles . . . I see them sliding all over the place out there.
    They do the same thing here, too. Without the snow.
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    Invite to all BF Century Riders: I will be driving to Covington, KY on Wednesday (5 hours from Detroit) to ride a century on Thursday with about 3-4 other people. Any snowbirds who need an excuse to "call-in" work can always say they caught the "bug" that is going around. E-mail me if you want directions. The weather is supposed to be in the low 40's or high 30's---much better than the minus temperatures with ice that we have around here. I don't have enough daylight hours to stop and warm up every 30-40 miles along with the slower riding speed during winter.

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    I'm in. Beautiful weather here yesterday, so I knocked out my first century of the year and got probably my first January sunburn ever.

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