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Old 07-12-08, 01:41 PM   #1
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Biking vs Cycling... Is there a difference?

I just got a brochure for the "Huntsman World Senior Games" for St George, Utah 10/6 - 10/18.
There are 25 different sports those aged 50+ can register for. http://seniorgames.net/

I see 2 categories involving bicycles:

1. Cycling - Hill Climb, criterium, time trial, road race
2. Biking - hill climb, down hill, cross country

Is there a difference? If so, please explain it to us. I thought they were one and the same.
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Old 07-12-08, 01:47 PM   #2
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biking - "to ride a bike"
cycling - "The act, sport, or technique of riding or racing on a bicycle, motorcycle, or similar vehicle."

. . . O.o whaaaa?????
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Old 07-12-08, 02:29 PM   #3
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1. There is no difference.

2. I suspect, based on the events listed, that "biking" is supposed to be "mountain biking".
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I suspect that they meant to write "mountain" before biking, based on the listed events.
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Based on the events it looks to me like "cycling" = road cycling and "bikeing" = mountain biking.
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When you do any kind of computer search, "bike" or "biker" will pull up all sorts of motorcycle stuff, so I tend to use "cycling" and "cyclist" for bicycling to avoid confusion.
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I am sure there are regional variances, but I have never heard motorcyclists call themselves cyclists, unless the it was preceded by "motor-". I have never heard roadie-type bicyclists call themselves bikers. I have never heard riders of mountain bikes/bicycles use the word "biker" alone to refer to themselves. Of course, the non-bicycling public will tend to use "biker" indiscriminately to refer to all types of motorcyclists and bicyclists.
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I don't know if this brief essay will clarify the distinction, or cloud matters further:

Driving Your Bike

I'd like to start by pointing out that there are no bicycle "riders".
People on bicycles (bicyclists, cyclists, bikers, whatever you want to call them)either drive their bicycle like it's a car, or they race their bicycle, like they are headed for the Tour de France.

It's important to remember that the racers are practicing a sport which has been around since before the invention of the automobile. The cyclists are still on the same roads, trying to compete against someone who biked ten miles in nineteen minutes, who left a record time, based on the stopwatch back in 1879. Those who race against the clock in such a fasion will look left and right at an intersection, but unless there is a truck coming, they will not stop.

These cyclists have an interesting legal argument; they've been riding these roads since 1879, and the stop signs and traffic lights did not appear until 1917, at the earliest. The traffic lights were intended for automobiles.

Let's now discuss "driving" a bicycle. Suppose I want to drive my bicycle into town to get a quart of milk and a loaf of bread. I have no need to set a record time, this "milk run" will not go down in sports history. I will drive my bike to the end of the driveway and stop. I will look both ways, and let the cars go by. When there is a break in traffic, then I pull out. Likewise, I stop at the stop sign, and I stop again for any lights that are red. I can not cover the ten miles in nineteen minutes, like that bicycle racer did in 1879. It will take longer , chalk it up to "progress". I will even check my rear-view mirror and pull over to let truck-traffic go by.

Make sure you (and your kids) know the difference between racing and driving. Too many amature cyclists are learning by example, doing what the racers do. Stop your bike and yield for traffic, especially trucks. It's better to let the motor vehicle operator go first and live , that for you to go first on your bike and get killed. Don't argue about who has the right-of-way, that's for a Judge to decide after you're dead. Just be courteous. Courtesy is contagious.

Racers have a legitimate gripe too; there aren't enough velodromes (bicycle race tracks) to practice on to stay in shape. So their racing has to be done on public roads. The paths in the parks are only designed for eighteen miles per hour, and they are crowded with walkers.
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I just got a brochure for the "Huntsman World Senior Games" for St George, Utah 10/6 - 10/18.
There are 25 different sports those aged 50+ can register for. http://seniorgames.net/

I see 2 categories involving bicycles:

1. Cycling - Hill Climb, criterium, time trial, road race
2. Biking - hill climb, down hill, cross country

Is there a difference? If so, please explain it to us. I thought they were one and the same.
Could it be that the brochure used the different names to express the level of stress and effort
required to ride in those two events? "Cycling" as discribed is for the racer boys and "Biking" is
for the average riders. But what do I know?
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it only matters through google search. Otherwise either term is fine. Cyclist has more of a elite sound to it over biking
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If you ride a bike a a leisure pace, enjoying sights, smells and sounds, it's biking. If you ride a bike with your tongue sticking out of your mouth it's cycling.
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When you do any kind of computer search, "bike" or "biker" will pull up all sorts of motorcycle stuff, so I tend to use "cycling" and "cyclist" for bicycling to avoid confusion.
Once I was in a bike shop waiting for the owner while another customer, dressed in full team kit (and this was back in the early 90's when that wasn't that common) was speaking to him. He had his young son with him, a boy around 5 years old. When he finished speaking to the shop owner, he told his son, "Tell Mr. Glenn (the owner) what daddy is." And the boy replied, "Daddy is a biker!" The man then corrected the boy, "No, no, daddy doesn't have tattoes and a bandana, daddy is a cyclist!" I damned near laughed my ass off.
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