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dromond 08-15-08 07:43 AM

Has anyone had bad bike mojo?
 
I am feeling finicky and need support from fellow bike nerds. For a while now I've been looking for the perfect sport-road bike. I've ridden and wrenched on bikes (mostly unprofessionally) for many years and wanted this to be the right bike. I mostly ride mountain bikes so trying all different sorts of rides out has been a fun and new experience. Yesterday I was visiting a friend in Cambridge (~100 miles from home) and checking out bikes at a nearby shop. I took one for a long test ride that fit very well, rode nicely seemed to really fit the bill. It was marked down a bit to boot. Wahoo! The search is over. Paid, done.

Then on the drive home (yes, drive) I start to experience what I can only describe as "bad bike mojo." I couldn't stop myself from thinking about how perhaps this wasn't the right choice, that it was too overbuilt, too gimmicky, etc. I pretty much felt sick to my stomach and half considered turning around and begging the shop to let me return it - at 9pm.

Basically, the bike is perfectly fine and will suit my purposes. But for some indescribable (some might say crazy) reason I just am having a hard time feeling good about the new ride. Do I stick it out until we learn to love one another arranged-marriage style? Or do I trust my gut and submit to fate, knowing I might take a hit for peace of mind.

Sincerely,
finicky bike nerd


*exact bike withheld due to inevitable varying bike prejudices.

bikecrate 08-15-08 08:43 AM

You are experiencing buyer's remorse. It will pass. I have the same problem. I just bought a new road bike. I didn't really need it and my older one works fine, so I felt a little guilty. I always feel guilty when I indulge myself. However, riding it makes me happy and I'm sure the more you ride yours the better you'll feel about it.

cachehiker 08-15-08 10:06 AM

Been there. Still have buyer's remorse about a full suspension frame I picked up but I'm going to slap it together and get it out on the trail anyway. I won't know how I really like it until then. I had buyer's remorse on my first full suspension bike as well. After building up the Zaskar, I ended up with two bikes with very similar geometry and sold the full suspension when it was still just a year old to limit my losses to $400. If I had it to do over again, I'd probably still buy it though. My Backwoods was trashed and I would've otherwise been without a mountain rig.

How about seller's remorse? I've acquired eight bikes over the last 15 years and absolutely loved five of them. I regret having sold the old Bianchi hybrid to a family member but I think I will reacquire it in another year or so. I want to set it up with studded tires.

bwunger 08-15-08 10:51 AM

I only get buyers remorse when I waste my money, so that's the question I'd ask you. Do you feel you wasted your money? In my case, I bought a road bike, even though I already had a hard tail MTB and a full suspension MTB. I ride the road bike 4-5 times a week though, so I really glad I got it. I got it on sale, so I think I got a good deal on it too. So, if you'll use the bike, and perhaps if it makes you ride more, count it as money well spent.

Zan 08-15-08 11:58 AM

i was fearing having buyer's remorse when i bought my SC Chameleon. i suppose you adults have a different view on things when it comes to buying a bike. my chameleon was two years worth of wages... so if it turned out i didn't like the bike, i'd be screwed.

oh well... i love the bike :D.

dromond, you know what help you relax and put your mind at ease? a nice long bike ride ;).

Ed in GA 08-15-08 12:13 PM

It's a combination of Buyers Remorse and "Did I really buy what I wanted or should have gotten the next better one?"

Coming to these forums doesn't help that either. You just bought the 4000 and everybody's posting about how much better the 5000 is. So, you wonder if what you bought will be good enough.

xenologer 08-15-08 12:35 PM

Just do a bunch of custom modifications and adjustments to the bike to personalize it. Then you won't worry so much.
At the very least, get the seat post and handlebars to your height, maybe adjust the brakes and derailers that aren't perfectly assembled?

Cannondaler 08-15-08 01:08 PM

I am certain that in six months, maybe less, you will absolutely adore your new bike.

mawtangent 08-15-08 03:12 PM

Maybe you were into the excitement of the"chase," finding the perfect bike, maybe you had been looking for a while, spending a lot of time researching and thinking about what you wanted to get, and then "bang," all of a sudden you found a bike, bought it...and the hunt (and the excitement of the chase) had come to an abrubt end. Maybe you feel a bit lost, not knowing how to fill up that time and energy that had been spent in the hunt. I've been there. From a logical standpoint you got the bike you had searched for, so now enjoy it, and, with the bike purchase out of the way, pursue some other goal that will enrich your life.

rmfnla 08-15-08 03:32 PM

Geez, look at all the amateur therapists... ;)

Dude, just go riding and all will become clear.

Andy_K 08-15-08 04:08 PM

Your problem is that your are objectivfying your bike. You are relating to it in what Martin Buber calls an "I-it" way. To truly reach the sort of deeply satisfying relationship you want with your bike you have to get beyond seeing it as an object to be used and begin seeing it as a fellow manifestation of the goodness of creation.

If you see your bike as just a tool which can potentially be replaced with something better, then you will always want something better, no matter how good your bike is. You must step beyond that and recognize this is no longer just some metal conglomoration that rolled off a factory floor somewhere. This is now your bike. It is inherently better than some shiny other bike on the LBS floor in that this is your bike and that one is not, and even if you let this bike rust in the garage or sell it on Craigslist, you will never escape the fact that it has been a part of your life. You have a permanent relatedness to this bike.

Don't hold back. Give yourself to this bike.

CB HI 08-15-08 08:01 PM

"(some might say crazy)"

Exactly what I was thinking before I got to that paragraph.

Throwmeabone 08-15-08 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 7280552)
Your problem is that your are objectivfying your bike. You are relating to it in what Martin Buber calls an "I-it" way. To truly reach the sort of deeply satisfying relationship you want with your bike you have to get beyond seeing it as an object to be used and begin seeing it as a fellow manifestation of the goodness of creation.

If you see your bike as just a tool which can potentially be replaced with something better, then you will always want something better, no matter how good your bike is. You must step beyond that and recognize this is no longer just some metal conglomoration that rolled off a factory floor somewhere. This is now your bike. It is inherently better than some shiny other bike on the LBS floor in that this is your bike and that one is not, and even if you let this bike rust in the garage or sell it on Craigslist, you will never escape the fact that it has been a part of your life. You have a permanent relatedness to this bike.

Don't hold back. Give yourself to this bike.

That was deep.. I will think about that on my next ride

dromond 08-16-08 01:56 PM

Well I've quite enjoyed all of the amateur psychology. Thanks for humoring my oddness. The real answer to this story is so good that I can't quite believe it.

The bike is a Trek Portland. I got is as a touring bike, occasional long distance/winter commuter, and recreational road bike. (Recreational in the sense that I often ride with people who happen to be slower than me in the first place, so keeping up on group rides is not a big concern.) After work yesterday I took the bike out for a ride. I did some sprints, climbs and generally tried to get the brakes bedded in. (Luckily I've had the same Avid discs on my mountain bike for years and know how to set them up.) Then of course it starts to pour rain, as it has every day this summer it seems. I said to myself "screw it, it's a rain bike" and kept riding. I started to really get into the stable handling that inspired me to buy it, as well of the quite ride and grip of 28c tires on rough roads and other surfaces.

As the rain started coming down in buckets and I got more of a feel for the bike I really began to enjoy myself and felt better about the whole thing. I start messing around with the traction, stopping short on wet dirt paths, drifting around in puddles; generally being an idiot. I was psyched about of versatility mixed with relatively good speed on the open road and was having a blast. I rode a short, steep grassy embankment that ended abruptly in a soaking wet sewer grate. As the bike flew out from under me and I scraped several ounces of flesh onto the pavement I let out a holler that was probably heard in the next town. I picked myself up and proceeded to gush blood all over the bike as I pedaled home with a big, wincing smile on my face. From that point on I knew that the bike and I were cool. The ladyfriend who has been watching my emo bike saga with an astounding level of patience and some level of amusement had quite the sight when I came knocking on the door drenched in watery blood with my new best friend.

This morning I went for a short road ride and it felt so natural. I could ride and ride but of course had to go home at some point to do some work. Speaking of which...


Quote:

Originally Posted by bwunger (Post 7278392)
I only get buyers remorse when I waste my money, so that's the question I'd ask you. Do you feel you wasted your money? In my case, I bought a road bike, even though I already had a hard tail MTB and a full suspension MTB. I ride the road bike 4-5 times a week though, so I really glad I got it. I got it on sale, so I think I got a good deal on it too. So, if you'll use the bike, and perhaps if it makes you ride more, count it as money well spent.

Not a waste of money. I was afraid of such remorse for similar reasons (I ride plenty of other bikes already) so I refused to cave and get a road bike until I knew I was going to make use of it. After mile marker 3,000 on my flexy 70's era Fuji I knew it was time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zan (Post 7278846)
...dromond, you know what help you relax and put your mind at ease? a nice long bike ride ;).

Correctamundo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed in GA (Post 7278955)
It's a combination of Buyers Remorse and "Did I really buy what I wanted or should have gotten the next better one?"

Coming to these forums doesn't help that either. You just bought the 4000 and everybody's posting about how much better the 5000 is. So, you wonder if what you bought will be good enough.

It wasn't so much a question of better but different. In the end of was trying to decide between this, and OCR 1 and a Salsa Casserole that I would have to special order and purchase unridden. I enjoyed the OCR but the handling and overall sportiness of the bike made light touring seem workable, but a stretch. The stock brakes were also mediocre.

I think that the Salsa would have been great, and cooler in a variety of ways. However, the rims seemed on the wide side (comes stock with 32c tires) and it was too big of a purchase for me to make without throwing a leg over it.

I had some misgivings about discs on a road bike, and still do. I'm not sold on the overall benefit outside of riding in the wet and it almost stopped me from buying the bike. But in the end they are solid brakes that work well. I was already familiar with setting them an the $200 discount on the bike sort of made up for the extra expense. The only problem is that finding good 130mm disc hubs when I want new wheels will be a pain.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenologer (Post 7279095)
Just do a bunch of custom modifications and adjustments to the bike to personalize it. Then you won't worry so much.
At the very least, get the seat post and handlebars to your height, maybe adjust the brakes and derailers that aren't perfectly assembled?

I can't wait to get this bike fit perfectly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannondaler (Post 7279329)
I am certain that in six months, maybe less, you will absolutely adore your new bike.

It took closer to 6 hours.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mawtangent (Post 7280202)
Maybe you were into the excitement of the"chase," finding the perfect bike, maybe you had been looking for a while, spending a lot of time researching and thinking about what you wanted to get, and then "bang," all of a sudden you found a bike, bought it...and the hunt (and the excitement of the chase) had come to an abrubt end. Maybe you feel a bit lost, not knowing how to fill up that time and energy that had been spent in the hunt. I've been there. From a logical standpoint you got the bike you had searched for, so now enjoy it, and, with the bike purchase out of the way, pursue some other goal that will enrich your life.

While I do my best to keep the gear-*****-ness in check by buying only what I use regularly, I am definitely guilty of this. I love the fun of specing everything out, testing and generally finding ways to make things work better. I think you are spot on about not knowing what to do with myself after finding the right thing. It makes you think about what is really most important. The whole general "chase' for a better life can be such a mind game in and of itself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 7280552)
Your problem is that your are objectivfying your bike. You are relating to it in what Martin Buber calls an "I-it" way. To truly reach the sort of deeply satisfying relationship you want with your bike you have to get beyond seeing it as an object to be used and begin seeing it as a fellow manifestation of the goodness of creation.

If you see your bike as just a tool which can potentially be replaced with something better, then you will always want something better, no matter how good your bike is. You must step beyond that and recognize this is no longer just some metal conglomoration that rolled off a factory floor somewhere. This is now your bike. It is inherently better than some shiny other bike on the LBS floor in that this is your bike and that one is not, and even if you let this bike rust in the garage or sell it on Craigslist, you will never escape the fact that it has been a part of your life. You have a permanent relatedness to this bike.

Don't hold back. Give yourself to this bike.

Like, whoah. I would heckle you if I wasn't being so crazy and you weren't, well.... correct.


Quote:

Originally Posted by CB HI (Post 7281822)
"(some might say crazy)"

Exactly what I was thinking before I got to that paragraph.

Not all of us can handle round-the-clock 24/7 sanity. As a good friend of mine said once when someone accused him of being obsessed with bikes: "Well, you have to be obsessed with something."


cheers everybody

Andy_K 08-18-08 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dromond (Post 7285010)
Like, whoah. I would heckle you if I wasn't being so crazy and you weren't, well.... correct.

I can't believe nobody did heckle me. I tried to be as over-the-top as I could. ;)

But, in the end, I do think that my load of b.s. is, at its core, fundamentally sound.

PunkMartyr 08-20-08 10:47 AM

I didn't have any bike buyers remorse. The bike physically looks like something I would mate with if I were a bike. Therefore, it provides an aesthetic pleasure just sitting around my house. Its almost like its earning its keep even when I'm not riding.


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