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Old 09-13-08, 04:06 PM   #26
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You could just ride around with her till you see some old guy on a cruiser bike by himself and tell her "Hey, go ride with that guy."
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Old 09-13-08, 06:12 PM   #27
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Just tell me where she is, and I will take over riding with her for you.

Oh... hang on... I can't say that anymore.

I repeat my earlier comment -- talk to her about your issues, especially if this is supposed to be a true friendship. Maybe you should also discuss with her just what her aims in riding and whether she wants more out of it, too.

The "too hot before tired" comment also makes me wonder. Perhaps you should study a bit more about training programs and find out ways to mitigate the heat factor. What you say suggests something is not right there.
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Old 09-13-08, 06:46 PM   #28
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If you are training for a tour, I don't see what the problem is. Touring isn't about speed, or hammering, or riding to keep your HR at some set point. Touring is about getting from point A to point B...daily - hopefully enjoying the ride and the places you are riding through.

If you are truly training for a tour, load up your bike with a touring load when riding with your friend...which will get you some realistic training at your friend's pace...effectively killing two birds with one stone.
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to slow down a bit & get more of a work out?
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Old 09-15-08, 01:43 PM   #29
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I have had the same problem as the OP.

Prioritize, first: is she a good enough non-cycling friend that you would not want to lose her as a friend? IME, it can be difficult due to time constraints to find a good friend. If you already have a good relationship, find some other way to achieve your goal(s) and preserve your friendship.

Increase your intensity. Don't just stuff a few weights in your panniers, get a rack that can handle upwards of 40lbs. Increase your load so much that you struggle to keep up with her as she sets the pace. If 40lbs is not enough, get yourself a $100 100lb capacity Wal-mart bike trailer and haul water bladders (at 8lbs/gallon) or something else.

IMO, you want to train at a higher intensity level than you expect to tour at, anyways. I have not toured, but I haul a lot of stuff back & forth to work. It is not a sprint, but more a marathon. I save my top speed for situations where speed will be of use. Otherwise, I choose a pace that I can maintain for a long time and not exhaust me.

If she wonders about the increased load, tell her you are training for a tour and that you expect to ride at a similar pace, but under greater load. Heck, she might be holding back because she assumes you are still a newb or might work to increase her pace to be of greater help. Keep it positive.

One added benefit it to see how both you and your bike (& maybe trailer) perform under load.

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Oh, my "problem*" is my wife.

We work hard to spend extra time together, especially exercise time. When we walk, I strap on a rucksack and push the kids in the jog stroller. When we bike, I carry almost all the gear in my rack basket and tow the kids in the trailer. This allows us both productive time together and we both get something out of it. When the gear & kids are not enough, I carry more water, "just in case," to up the intensity.




* Obviously not a problem, but a circumstance of my exercise load requirements being greater than those of my wife.
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Old 09-15-08, 02:25 PM   #30
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Another way to help equalize abilities is to learn to draft. In this case, you would need to learn to lead and she would learn to follow closely behind you. You'll be working 20% harder while you both go the same speed. You can still socialize if the lead rider turns his head to talk unless it's a very windy day or you're going really fast. Or you can get an RF intercom.
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Old 09-15-08, 08:47 PM   #31
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Another way to help equalize abilities is to learn to draft. In this case, you would need to learn to lead and she would learn to follow closely behind you. You'll be working 20% harder while you both go the same speed. You can still socialize if the lead rider turns his head to talk unless it's a very windy day or you're going really fast. Or you can get an RF intercom.
I'd do it the other way around, and let her lead when you ride together. You won't be going faster than her for too long, and you can hammer on another day.
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Old 09-15-08, 09:09 PM   #32
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Two of us had outgrown our third ride buddy and didn't know what to do. He was a great guy and always a good participant in our breaktime discussions. One day I was riding alongside of him and started analyzing his riding. I realized he didn't have a grip on shifting at all. Over the next few days, I went over it with him and we worked together as we rode. Once he got the hang of it, his pace picked up dramatically. Problem solved. bk
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