Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-17-08, 08:50 PM   #1
Zan
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Zan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Waterloo, ONT
Bikes: Road: Trek 1.5 (2007). Mountain: Santa Cruz Chameleon (2008). Beater: Peugeot Recorde du Monde (1850)
Posts: 1,417
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Hair

Hey everybody!

Okay, story:

I did a century a couple weeks ago. Pouring rain. I was wearing biker shorts. Anyways, i started to get some really bad chaffing happening. The chaffing is a result of the 6+hours on the bike + the pouring rain, not 'cause of saddle position or saddle or shorts. I've done 125km rides dry and been fine.

Anyways, recovery has been slow. I am biking to school regularly in jeans (which... isn't helping), and have been doing my regular cycling route. As well, i go mountain biking with jeans (which helps less).

I'm curious to know: does hair (be it on the legs, inner thigh, rear, w.e.) aggravate chaffing, or help it? I don't know; it could help by acting as a "lubricant" between the two surfaces, and taking the rubbing before the skin... or it could irritate 'cause it's coarse... so is hair bad for cyclists, or good?

i'm hesitant in shaving 'cause if it makes it worse, then obviously i made a mistake... and hair takes a while to grow back.

i'm not interested in chamois butter or any other products.

thanks, team.
Zan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-08, 08:57 PM   #2
JoelS
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Near Sacramento
Bikes:
Posts: 4,890
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zan View Post
Hey everybody!

i'm not interested in chamois butter or any other products.

thanks, team.
That's a shame. Chamois butter is specifically for chafing and it works.

Get some better bike shorts or a different saddle. I'm rather hairy too, haven't noticed a chafing problem due to it.
__________________
-------

Some sort of pithy irrelevant one-liner should go here.
JoelS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-08, 09:06 PM   #3
tntyz
Senior Member
 
tntyz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Nabob, WI
Bikes: '03 Trek 7500, '08 Madone 4.5
Posts: 1,176
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
For me it's not whether hair is coarse or not. It's the pinch and pull effect made worse when adding some perspiration.

I have a few pairs of shorts and some are better than others. I make sure I have the right pair on for long and sweaty rides.

<edit to add . . .>
BTW, hair growing back in can be mighty uncomfortable, too.
tntyz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-08, 09:26 PM   #4
JoelS
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Near Sacramento
Bikes:
Posts: 4,890
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Try some chamois butter before you reject the idea.
__________________
-------

Some sort of pithy irrelevant one-liner should go here.
JoelS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-08, 07:15 AM   #5
JanMM
rebmeM roineS
 
JanMM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In Central IN
Bikes: RANS V3, RANS V-Rex, RANS Screamer
Posts: 13,397
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 31 Post(s)
Cycling in jeans is part of your problem.
JanMM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-08, 10:56 AM   #6
Billy Bones
Senior Member
 
Billy Bones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Shanghai, West Virginia
Bikes:
Posts: 501
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zan View Post
. . .hesitant in shaving 'cause if it makes it worse. . .
After 48 years of intensive motion in the saddle, in the rain, in the humidity I've never had a problem of any kind where the skin meets the seat that could not be ascribed to seams or overdoing it or gritty dirt. That said, in the humid seasons that rubber wrist band on the watch and HR receiver make the hair follicles under 'em erupt with staph infection. For three seasons of the year, shaving the wrists where the band rings 'em is a routine.
Billy Bones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-08, 01:24 PM   #7
capejohn
Senior Member
 
capejohn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Fairhaven, Massachusetts
Bikes: Novara Randonee, Felt Z45, Marin Belvedere Commuter
Posts: 1,800
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
No one know if you use butter but you. (Usually).
capejohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-08, 05:31 PM   #8
Zan
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Zan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Waterloo, ONT
Bikes: Road: Trek 1.5 (2007). Mountain: Santa Cruz Chameleon (2008). Beater: Peugeot Recorde du Monde (1850)
Posts: 1,417
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
as i said, the problem is usually not there. this ride was different due to rain... my saddle and shorts are fine on long rides when dry. when everything is soaked through things change. i'm not interested in using the chamois butter.

...

so generally the answer is... yes, shaving is good? (aside from those telling me to use chamois butter)
Zan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-08, 06:00 PM   #9
JoelS
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Near Sacramento
Bikes:
Posts: 4,890
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
If you're not going to use chamois butter, I have no other suggestions. The stuff works and no one will know but you. I don't know why you're so resistant.
__________________
-------

Some sort of pithy irrelevant one-liner should go here.
JoelS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-08, 07:11 PM   #10
Fremdchen
Senior Member
 
Fremdchen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA
Bikes: 2007 Schwinn Super Sport Ultra 1
Posts: 548
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Interestingly, humans tend to grow hair in places where there is motion and skin-on-skin friction - groin, armpits - and in my experience, keeping the hair there helps a lot with friction problems. (Of course the hair also serves as a scent-catcher so take from that what you will...)
Fremdchen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-08, 04:43 PM   #11
Largegiant04
Junior Member
 
Largegiant04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 13
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Sounds like you are just trying to find an excuse to shave your legs. Just do it! If that doesn't help your problem it probably would be time to try the chamois butter.
Largegiant04 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-08, 08:09 PM   #12
Kommisar89
Bottecchia fan
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Bikes: 1959 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (in progress...), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special (in progress...), 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame), 1974 Peugeot UO-8
Posts: 3,425
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoelS View Post
If you're not going to use chamois butter, I have no other suggestions. The stuff works and no one will know but you. I don't know why you're so resistant.
+1

I doubt the hair makes any difference. I've ridden with hair and shaved. Jeans are a pain if they are too tight. For me, best fit is size 33 but fresh out the dryer will kill me on a bike so I usually get size 34 to avoid having to wear bike clothes to work and carry a backpack with a change of clothes.
__________________
1959 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional, 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
Kommisar89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-08, 08:36 PM   #13
Lizzylou
Dropped myself
 
Lizzylou's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Pennsylvania
Bikes:
Posts: 397
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fremdchen View Post
Interestingly, humans tend to grow hair in places where there is motion and skin-on-skin friction - groin, armpits - and in my experience, keeping the hair there helps a lot with friction problems. (Of course the hair also serves as a scent-catcher so take from that what you will...)
+1

I have always held the theory that hair is natures lubricant. It grows in all of your 'high friction' areas.

But I agree with the other suggestions as well. Lose the jeans. The really thick seams in jeans can not be very pleasant, especially in the crotch where you've got about 100 layers of denim meeting in the middle.
Lizzylou is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-08, 03:45 PM   #14
d2create
Senior Member
 
d2create's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Houston we have a problem
Bikes:
Posts: 2,914
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Try Body Glide.
It's meant for runners but should work fine for you.
I don't need it on the bike, but I do need it when i run 10 miles or longer.
It really works well and it goes on/looks like a deodorant stick.
Give it a shot. At least until you heal.
Also, why on earth are you biking in jeans?!?!
At the very least wear some thing bike shorts under your jeans instead of underwear.
You weren't wearing underwear under the bike shorts, were you? I don't see how some rain was the cause of your chafing since it shouldn't be any different than sweat.
d2create is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-08, 06:53 AM   #15
Bob Ross
your god hates me
 
Bob Ross's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 3,222
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by d2create View Post
Try Astro Glide.
fixed
Bob Ross is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-08, 04:12 PM   #16
Zan
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Zan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Waterloo, ONT
Bikes: Road: Trek 1.5 (2007). Mountain: Santa Cruz Chameleon (2008). Beater: Peugeot Recorde du Monde (1850)
Posts: 1,417
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
well i'm fine now; just let myself heal. i knew the reason the chaffing happened was because of that ride. i just made the thread 'cause i was curious to know whether the hair actually "helps" the body when it comes to rubbing.

i ride in jeans when commuting 'cause the only thing i wear longer than shorts is a pair of jeans, and it's starting to get cold in the mornings. i also wear 'em whilst mountain biking for the protection from the stinging nettles, fire ants, mosquitoes, and things i scrape against. when i decide to go for a road ride, yes, i wear the cycling shorts (skinny jeans over top of the shorts if it's cold out.)
Zan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-08, 05:31 PM   #17
banerjek
Portland Fred
 
banerjek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Bikes: Custom Winter, Challenge Seiran SL, Fuji Team Pro, Cattrike Road/Velokit, РOS hybrid
Posts: 11,190
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zan View Post
i'm not interested in chamois butter or any other products.
Screw that stuff. I tried it once or twice some years back because everyone said how great it was, but I did not find it helpful and it keeps your skin from breathing.

Shaving does help, but in your case, the real problem is riding in jeans.
banerjek is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:12 PM.