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    Anyone have a Day6?

    Stopped by the LBS around here that actually stocks them. Took a Dream 21 speed for a ride around in there parking lot. Before I ask Santa for one, I have a couple of questions:

    -How does it handle hills?
    -What is your avg/max speed? I know that this varies because everybody has different *engines*, but the riding position has the aero profile of a Peterbilt...
    -Utility? I know that Day6 has a rear rack for $99 available, but is there some other rack that would work on the cheap? Also, one of the testamonials from the Day6 site states that he straps a backpack to the backrest. Is this possible?
    -Transporting? How do you transport it, when you are not riding it?

    Any advice/opinions are, as always, welcomed.
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    I do not have a Day6, and haven't ever rode one.
    I do have a 2006 RANS Fusion, which is (overall) a similar riding position.
    So according to standard internet operating procedure, I'm going to talk about something totally different than what you asked. ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    Stopped by the LBS around here that actually stocks them. Took a Dream 21 speed for a ride around in there parking lot. Before I ask Santa for one, I have a couple of questions:

    -How does it handle hills?
    In addition to the Day6, another company that made a bike like this was Lightfoot Cycles, who made the Surefoot model (no longer available).

    One of the advantages that the RANS bikes have to these others is that RANS uses a tall stem riser, and low-rise handlebars. The Day6 and Surefoot used low stems, with medium- or taller-rise handlebars. These bikes are all basically semi-recumbents, and are rode sitting on the seat all the time; standing up to pedal isn't real practical--and the reason the stem height makes a difference is that when you want to ride aggressively on these bikes, you need to be able to pull back on the handlebars hard in order to pedal hard.

    The potential problem with the Day6 (and the Surefoot) was that if you pulled hard on the taller handlebars, they may rotate in the handlebar clamp. People who only ride them very casually may never see this issue however.

    .....One disagreement I have with the Day6 (one seat) and the Surefoot is clear--making a bike with this relaxed of a riding position, and then putting a regular bicycle saddle on it is just plain stupid. One of the most common complaints about bicycles is that the saddles hurt to sit on, and the whole idea of building a bike with this riding position is that it frees you from needing to use a regular bicycle saddle.

    The seat of the RANS bikes is unique--it won't fit on other bikes. It is much bigger and more comfortable than a bicycle saddle and doesn't require padded shorts, but still doesn't interfere with pedaling. It is possible to adjust the RANS bikes so you have zero hand pressure, but I prefer to lean for ward a bit.

    -What is your avg/max speed? I know that this varies because everybody has different *engines*, but the riding position has the aero profile of a Peterbilt...
    The RANS Fusion is considerably more comfortable, but it is also noticeably slower than I would be on a comparable "regular" road bike or MTB, basically due to the RANS poor aero position. The Fusion is great for casual cruising and moderate speed riding, but IMO it is lousy for racing on. The comfy position makes for poor aerodynamics, there's no way around it.

    -Utility? I know that Day6 has a rear rack for $99 available, but is there some other rack that would work on the cheap? Also, one of the testamonials from the Day6 site states that he straps a backpack to the backrest. Is this possible?
    RANS sells a rear rack mounting kit for their bikes. They have refined it over time. I didn't like the one they had when I bought my bike, so I welded my own rear rack.

    -Transporting? How do you transport it, when you are not riding it?
    Some people who use bike/bus routes have found that with the RANS crank-forward bikes, if you flip the front wheel backwards, it is short enough to fit into many regular "wheel-support" bicycle carriers (such as on many metro buses). I use a regular trailer hitch/frame hook rack for mine, or lay it down inside my SUV.

    My other bike is a long-wheelbase recumbent that is much more comfortable than the RANS Fusion, but is also much more a pain in the rear to transport. Transportation is (I think) the main drawback of owning a recumbent.

    Any advice/opinions are, as always, welcomed.
    The RANS bikes start at around $1100, which is more than the Day6 $700 bikes.

    RANS has a website with forum for the crank-forward bikes: http://www.crankforward.com/
    Other bikes are discussed, but most who have tried others say that the RANS are the best functioning choice available right now.

    The Fusion I own now, I had to order sight-unseen,,,,,,, but if I bought another, I would try to test-ride a Dynamik before choosing. The Fusion has a bit more wheel flop than I'd like (due to its tilted-back head tube angle) and I ended up adjusting the Fusion to I am leaning forward a tiny bit anyway.
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    ^^Well, thanks for the RANS testimonial. Seriously, though, I have been checking out the RANS CF bikes online. But they are all out of my budget right now. The Day6 is going to make Santa wince as it is...
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    The Day6 seat is NOT a normal seat at all! You can get a couple seats for it and different back rests. It is also very adjustable. We have a small dealer down the street from my business that was carrying them so I got ride a bit like around the block. I can't answer many of your questions, but I will tell you to ask them if you can go for a 1/2 to 1 hour spin on one. That may tell you more than we can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by one_beatnik View Post
    The Day6 seat is NOT a normal seat at all! You can get a couple seats for it and different back rests. It is also very adjustable. We have a small dealer down the street from my business that was carrying them so I got ride a bit like around the block. I can't answer many of your questions, but I will tell you to ask them if you can go for a 1/2 to 1 hour spin on one. That may tell you more than we can.
    The back rest options are new to me, but I knew about the seat choices before walking into the LBS. I took a spin on a Dream 21 w/SL seat. That thing was uber comfortable. Didn't have the time to try out either the Dream or Journey w/SS seat.
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    I know this post was written in 2008 and I just got to it. So for future questions about the Day6 Dream 21 (I think it is Dream 24, now. 24 speeds).
    We bought a Dream 21 for my wife. She was still very comfortable with her Women's Trek 7300 bike, so I got it.
    I have used it for over a year. I like it. But, a person does need other bikes. I have a Recumbent BikeE, also and other standard bikes. Soooooooooooooo, I can compare the Day6 Dream very well.

    I have really liked the Day6, In 2012, I had a major fracture of my femur bone. I was very active in biking at the time. 6 months later, I couldn't stand not riding, so I took up with the easy mount of the Day 6 and I have put 410 miles on it in my area.

    My area is nottttttttttttttttt flat. There are hills up to 7, 8 and 9% grades. After getting back into shape for riding, I use the Day 6 with a cargo Trailer to commute uphill to work. I carry two steel folding lawn chairs and a small plastic table in the trailer. We have spot that we like to picnic, so we do it in grand style. Yeah, people look at the two old geezers and wonder if we are homeless. By the way, I'm 78 years old.

    Speed: My best speed in very hilly territory has been 9.4 mph average for 10 miles. (without the trailer) I log every ride in a spreadsheet. I have compared my speeds with other great bikes, like my Marin Sausalito and the BikeE. I have a Box Store Schwinn Solitaire that is a favorite. My best speed has been on the Schwinn and it was 10.7 average on the American River Bike Trail. (not as hilly as my home area)

    "On 12/23/13 I wrote the following note in my records. I had been wondering about the Day 6 being a little slower than the other bikes:
    Note: I have been wondering if the bikes like the Sausalito and Schwinn style allowed me any Overall faster travel speed than the Semi Recumbent Dream 21. On October 26, 2013, I wrote the following note: Solo Today, I roded the Sausalito 09. I could not take hills any faster with the /Sausalito or the Schwinn, than I can with the Dream 21. The Dream is so much more comfortable. "

    I read on the forum that changing the seat was not a good idea. Well, I did. It works. The roads in my area are not the greatest. Almost sounds like cobble stones rattling as you pass over them. I changed the tires to Schwalbe Big Bens that are 26X2.35". Rides soooooooooo much smoother over those bumps.

    The Day6 has a mountain bike gearing system with a 22/32/42 chain ring series and rear cassette with 12 to 32 teeth. I haven't found a hill yet that I can't climb. Remember, I'm old.'

    Knees: I have had knee trouble lately with mounting and dismounting my standard bikes. Been getting knees adjusted every week for a month, by the Doc.

    So, I have been riding the Day 6 exclusively and loving it. However, I'm always shopping for something new and different.

    Rack: I bought the Day6 Rack from the LBS.

    Grip Shifters: I'm not fond of Grippers and the ones on the Day6 need to have a meeting with Jesus. I'll probably be changing them out, soon to triggers.

    Harold

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