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Old 11-18-08, 12:58 PM   #1
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super insulated bicycling shoes? Insulated bike shorts?

Hey there - I currently use Shimano SH-M122B shoes with my bicycle. These were a little hot during the summer, but mostly great. Now that it's starting to get colder and colder, however, they're proving to just not offer enough insulation. Today it was just a hint above freezing, and I wore my thickest wool socks along with long johns, and still by the end of my 10 mile commute my feet were nearly numb.

Is there anything better out there?

On a related note - any recommendations for winter bicycling bib shorts? All of mine are more for the summer so I've been layering up which works pretty well.
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Old 11-18-08, 02:02 PM   #2
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Check performancebike.com for booties that fit over your shoes. I start in the fall wearing shoe covers then go the zip up booties when it gets really cold. Wool socks work well, too.

Wrapping your feet in Saran wrap then putting on socks will keep the feet very warm. Also very sweaty.
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Hey there - I currently use Shimano SH-M122B shoes with my bicycle. These were a little hot during the summer, but mostly great. Now that it's starting to get colder and colder, however, they're proving to just not offer enough insulation. Today it was just a hint above freezing, and I wore my thickest wool socks along with long johns, and still by the end of my 10 mile commute my feet were nearly numb.

Is there anything better out there?
There are several ways to go. Winter shoes are probably fine but if you have a lot of temperature variation over the day, they can end up being too hot on the way home. I feel a better way to go is neoprene booties. Get another pair of shoes for winter in a larger size then summer shoes since you want room for extra socks. Find something with a flatter tread than your current Shimano shoes because trying to get a mountain bike shoe into a bootie is difficult Touring shoes work very well.

Alternatively, some people swear by Shimano sandals. Use a wind/waterproof external sock and layer as many socks as you like under it. Remove layers as necessary.

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On a related note - any recommendations for winter bicycling bib shorts? All of mine are more for the summer so I've been layering up which works pretty well.
Try Pearl Izumi Slice Thermafleece bib tights with regular shorts underneath (fewer straps). I wear mine down to well below freezing. PI Amfibs are very nice for below freezing but don't use them if you expect the temp to go above 40F...way too hot!
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Lake, Sidi and Northwave all make winter cycling shoes. There's a fourth one too, but I can't remember the name. I own the Lakes. Toasty to about 15F with one pair of ordinary Sam's Club white socks, down to lower than 5F with two pair.

I second the recommendation of bib tights over regular shorts. I have two pair. I have a pair of Sugoi Windblock bib tights which are good to just below freezing, and a pair of Endura Thermolite Windtex bib tights which are too warm above freezing. In both cases, they run a bit small. I usually wear a medium and had to go with the large.
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So why a bib over normal bicycling shorts? Is that just because many don't have a chamois?

Surely some do though? It seems so redundant to have two pairs of bicycling bottoms...
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So why a bib over normal bicycling shorts? Is that just because many don't have a chamois?

Surely some do though? It seems so redundant to have two pairs of bicycling bottoms...
Keeping warm is all about layers.

And here's how to keep your feet warm:

http://www.machka.net/whatworks/coldfeet.htm


BTW - we do have a winter forum for questions like these:
http://www.bikeforums.net/winter-cycling/
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Booties are nice. Chemical toe warmers between the booties and the tops of the shoes are really nice.
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Fitter at LBS told me this trick (which I haven't tried, but he swears by) for cold feet. Put your socks on, and then put a plastic sandwich bag over your socks. not the kind with a ziplock, just a regular plastic sandwich bag, and then put your shoes on. Says it will keep your feet warm in almost anything.
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Fitter at LBS told me this trick (which I haven't tried, but he swears by) for cold feet. Put your socks on, and then put a plastic sandwich bag over your socks. not the kind with a ziplock, just a regular plastic sandwich bag, and then put your shoes on. Says it will keep your feet warm in almost anything.
Used this for years but that was mainly to keep the feet dry. Wet feet get cold very quickly. Then I went to Seal Skinz waterproof socks and they work. But this autumn- I bought a pair of neoprene overshoes. By far the best method of keeping the feet warm.

On the shorts- I got a pair of KNickers years ago. These were made of warmer material and are long shorts that cover the knees. I will be wearing these on any rides that start at below 40Deg F from now on. But if it is going to be frosty or wet and cold- I wear a pair of cycling tights over the top.

In general the body is not a problem due to enough layers- but the hands and feet are where I can get a problem. They have to be kept warm.
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Another brand of winter cycling shoes is Specialized - BG Defroster Mountain Bike boots. Warm and waterproof, too hot over 45 degrees or so.

If you are in the cold and wet a lot they are more convenient than booties.
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So why a bib over normal bicycling shorts? Is that just because many don't have a chamois?

Surely some do though? It seems so redundant to have two pairs of bicycling bottoms...
Tights shouldn't have chamois in them, IMHO. You could ride in tights with chamois but it might get a tad cooler than I like if I had to take them off Like Machka said, it's all about layers. You remove or replace layers as needed. You could also wear bib tights and bib shorts but that's a lot of stuff on the shoulders.
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