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    What do you think of these bikes?

    Hi Im looking at bikes
    what do you guys think of these two?

    http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/bik/1114302604.html
    http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/bik/1114862048.html

    They both look like they are in shape to me. I dont know much about mtn bikes are the tires a normal size? I am 6'5 and need a large bike.
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    I can't speak on the Miele, but that first one - at $70 - is a joke. Maybe $15, $20 tops if the tires hold air.

    That's my take on it.
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    The first one looks like a department store bike alright. Current mountain bikes tend to have very low frames. That one looks similar to the one a friend has, maybe 15 years old, which much higher frame. Not to say it wouldn't work, but likely overpriced at $70.

    Second one looks more like a "real" bike, but I'm not familiar with the brand at all. What do they want for it?
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    There is no price listed. Sounds like the owner(?) is running an illegal auction. Get's people's "bids" and sells to the highest. Never trust an ad without a price.
    How do you keep an idiot in suspense?

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    70$ is too much!? I thought 70$ for a bike was rediculously cheap.
    I'll trust you if you say so but is a department store bike a bad thing? why?

    Most importantly how do you recognize such a thing? I'll i see is that it has all the parts.

    I will also throw this bike into the mix... i thought it looked pretty good but 200$ might be a bit much. It has a 23" frame which is the size i want.
    http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/bik/1113550751.html
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    ok I did a search on the department store bikes and understand why they are bad but how can you tell by looking?

    also do you think the other bike is bad?

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    Clues to look for: Bolt-on wheels. Cheesy steel caliper brakes. Also the presence of no-name components like shifters and such.

    Can't say much about the second bike, the guy doesn't give any specs. Send him an e-mail and ask for better pics and what sort of equipment the bike is wearing.

    I sell all my re-built bikes on Craigslist; I always list exactly what I've done to them, what the equipment spec is, the frame size, and so forth. I offer to send the high-res picture to anyone making inquiries.

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    ok the guy with the second bike (the pink one) wants 180$, and all the parts are brand name with quick release wheels. does that make it a good deal?

    If a mountain bike had brand name parts but nothing amazing and quick release wheels, and nothing rusty or broken, what would it be worth?
    Last edited by chico1st; 04-11-09 at 08:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikewer View Post
    Bolt-on wheels.
    Meh...my DJ has bolt on wheels, and it's not half bad.

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    180 bucks is pretty dear for what looks to be a well-used bike...

    Let's explain something here. All parts makers, Shimano, Campagnolo, etc...Put up what they call "groups" of components. These range from very cheap to very expensive. With Shimano, you might pay anything from 20 bucks for the cheapest derailleur to a couple of hundred for the top-of-the-line.

    So, saying the parts are all from the same brand-name maker isn't telling you much.

    If you are interested in this bike, you might ask him what the components are. Assuming Shimano, are we talking "Tourney"? "Alivio"? "Deore"? Also inquire as to the frame material.

    As to bolt-on wheels, it's just the general case that cheap "box-store" bikes are set up with same. You're generally looking at a bike which would sell new for 100.00 bucks or so. Heavy mild-steel frame, cheap components, etc. Not to say the bike is unusable, but definitely at the low end of the spectrum.

    Sometimes folks in high-crime areas will replace the quick-releases with special security bolts to prevent theft; you're generally looking at a high-end bike in that case.

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    The Miele is a respecable brand but it looks about 15 yrs old. Brakes with these types of pads are much easier to adjust http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/brakeshoes.html#threaded If it has ones like this you should be prepared to spend $40 changing them http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/brakeshoes.html#smooth It has quill stem but there is nothing wrong with that. It indicates an older bike or a cheaper model, I wouldnt offer more than $120, but try riding it and if the gears shift nicely and the brakes work smoothly, buy it.

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    OK, so if I'm just looking for a bike which is durable but i dont care that much about performance how much should I be looking at? In that case do I just care that they are brand name parts.

    Also if a bike is older how do i know how good the parts are on it? I cant see parts on shimano's website, is there an archive of bike parts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chico1st View Post
    Hi Im looking at bikes
    what do you guys think of these two?
    They're on CL so my first thought is they're stolen.
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    The advantage that Craigslist has over Ebay is that you can search for things in your area. So go and look at them. If the gears shift, the brakes work, the wheels are round and your knees dont hit your chest when pedaling they will suit your purposes. The Miele looks like it miay be your size.

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