Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-09-09, 09:50 PM   #1
Commando303
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Commando303's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 618
Gear-Shifting

(I'm a newbie.) Does it matter which "style" shifter I have? That is, the sort where I twist the ring near the handle, or the sort where I hit a button with my thumb? Is one more reliable, efficient than the other?

Thanks.
Commando303 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-09, 09:57 PM   #2
black_box
Fax Transport Specialist
 
black_box's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: chicago burbs
Bikes: '07 fuji cross pro, '10 gary fisher x-caliber
Posts: 887
I prefer the button/trigger/lever operated shifters. When I had a bike with the twisty shifters, sometimes I'd accidentally shift gears when adjusting my grip on the bars (i.e., getting up out of the saddle to pedal hard or go up a hill).
black_box is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-09, 10:31 PM   #3
xenologer
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 2,052
Levers are better, you don't accidentally shift by holding the bars, and they operate a lot smoother and easier since the cable doesnt have to go thru crazy twists and turns. Plus only stupid noobs use the grip shifters (ring things).
xenologer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-09, 08:29 AM   #4
Retro Grouch 
Senior Member
 
Retro Grouch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: St Peters, Missouri
Bikes: Rans Rockst (Retro rocket) Rans Enduro Sport (Retro racket) Catrike 559, Merin Bear Valley (beater bike).
Posts: 26,378
Totally personal preference.

I happen to like the trigger shifters better, but I know some quite-experienced riders who prefer the twist shifters. I've been a bike shop mechanic so I've had extensive repair experience with both. I'm going to rate them roughly equal for both frequency and ease of repair.
Retro Grouch is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-09, 04:31 PM   #5
GRedner
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Brookline, MA
Bikes:
Posts: 514
As with most things in cycling, the best [insert item here] is the one you feel most comfortable with, the one you enjoy the most, etc. By all means try out different styles to find out what you like and to have some basis for comparison, but don't get roped into buying something you like less because someone says it's better!
GRedner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-09, 05:06 PM   #6
craigR
Member
 
craigR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Orlando, FL
Bikes: Santa Cruz Heckler, Trek Soho 1.0
Posts: 40
Opinions vary, and there will always be someone putting down another for their style, gear, or opinions.
Use what you like, try it all even, but ultimately.... If it's on your bike and it works, just ride it.
craigR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-09, 05:23 PM   #7
CrimsonEclipse
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 508
There's the trigger shifters, SRAMS have the release button below while some Shimano's have the release trigger above.
Grip shifters are a simpler design but I just don't like them.

My personal favorite is the friction thumb shifter. Simple, efficient and kinda retro. (and cheaper)

It absolutely personal preference.

CE
CrimsonEclipse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-09, 07:00 PM   #8
GaryBy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Bikes:
Posts: 93
When I was searching for my new bike, I started out with the premise that I would prefer trigger shifters - both because that's what I was used to, and that's what seemed to be the more common opinion here. I wound up choosing a bike with twist shifters, driven largely by other reasons, feeling that if I hated them, I could always replace them.

Now that I have the bike, I've decided that I really like the twist shifters. I've yet to have the accidental shifting problem that others have mentioned. What I really like is that I don't have to move my hands, and I'm not reaching blindly with my thumb to find the lever.

On my previous bike,the two levers were adjacent, one longer than the other, but still close together. There were times when I felt the need to either feel both or look to make sure I was hitting the correct one. On the bikes that I considered for my replacement, the triggers were located further apart. This meant I wouldn't worry about whether I had the right one, but instead it meant that at least one of them was either uncomfortable to hit or hard to reach. The twist shifters simply don't have either of these problems.

But, as others have said, it's a matter of personal preference.
GaryBy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-09, 08:25 PM   #9
xenologer
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 2,052
Lets put it this way, what shifters come default on the cheap walmart bikes?
xenologer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-09, 10:41 PM   #10
mikewille
Frame Catastrophizer
 
mikewille's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Suburban Chicago
Bikes: Surly Instigator
Posts: 450
I've broken several sets of trigger shifters during off road crashes and wipeouts.
I have yet to break a gripshifter, or shift one unintentionally.
mikewille is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-09, 11:18 PM   #11
Wordbiker
Pwnerer
 
Wordbiker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Pagosa Springs, CO, USA
Bikes: Road, MTB, Cruiser, Chopper, BMX
Posts: 2,907
If your cycling experience goes back a few years, you may recall that gripshift was marketed as an upgrade to existing shifter choices.

Simpler and lighter than just about any shifter on the market, racers took to them in droves. Aside from the drawback of occasionally mis-shifting, they did (and still do) have one major advantage: in a panic the rider can shift from one end of the cogs to the other in one smooth motion with the hand still wrapped around the bars for control.

I see the choice of shifters as a personal one. Use what works for you and your needs.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by ahsposo View Post
Ski, bike and wish I was gay.
Wordbiker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-09, 06:26 PM   #12
Commando303
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Commando303's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 618
Quote:
Originally Posted by xenologer View Post
Levers are better, you don't accidentally shift by holding the bars, and they operate a lot smoother and easier since the cable doesnt have to go thru crazy twists and turns. Plus only stupid noobs use the grip shifters (ring things).
I guess I should be filed under "stupid noob," then. Anyhow, I think it tends to come down to "what your bike happens to come with," doesn't it?
Commando303 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-09, 10:45 PM   #13
Jeff Wills
Insane Bicycle Mechanic
 
Jeff Wills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: other Vancouver
Bikes:
Posts: 7,892
Quote:
Originally Posted by Commando303 View Post
I guess I should be filed under "stupid noob," then. Anyhow, I think it tends to come down to "what your bike happens to come with," doesn't it?
No, you are the one seeking the answers to life, the universe, and everything. Unfortunately, you won't find them here.

FWIW: among my bikes, I have grip-shifters, trigger-shifters, and bar-end shifters. Then I have two bikes with no shifters at all (a single speed and a fixed gear).
__________________
Jeff Wills

Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
Jeff Wills is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-09, 11:06 PM   #14
xtrajack
xtrajack
 
xtrajack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Maine
Bikes: Kona fire mountain/xtracycle,Univega landrover fs,Nishiki custom sport Ross professional super gran tour Schwinn Mesa (future Xtracycle donor bike)
Posts: 2,056
Mine came with trigger,I replaced them with vintage friction thumb shifters.
Mostly it is like GRedner posted above:
"As with most things in cycling, the best [insert item here] is the one you feel most comfortable with, the one you enjoy the most, etc. By all means try out different styles to find out what you like and to have some basis for comparison, but don't get roped into buying something you like less because someone says it's better!"
Also, you might want to avoid buying something that you think you might like better,until you get a chance to actually check it out.--Long semi-expensive story goes with that.

Last edited by xtrajack; 05-11-09 at 11:09 PM.
xtrajack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-09, 11:23 PM   #15
deraltekluge
Senior Member
 
deraltekluge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Bikes: Kona Cinder Cone, Sun EZ-3 AX
Posts: 1,195
Quote:
Originally Posted by Commando303 View Post
(I'm a newbie.) Does it matter which "style" shifter I have? That is, the sort where I twist the ring near the handle, or the sort where I hit a button with my thumb? Is one more reliable, efficient than the other?
I have bikes with both styles. I prefer the trigger, but the twist isn't bad. Each type has its advantages, and different people have different ideas as to which is better. Go with what feels right to you.
deraltekluge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-09, 09:43 AM   #16
noglider 
aka Tom Reingold
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: West Village, New York City
Bikes: too many
Posts: 26,660
When I have a choice, I prefer the lever type. If I'm on a bike with a twist shifter, I don't mind.

In other words, it doesn't matter much to me. You're not a chump if you have or prefer the twist type.
__________________
Tom Reingold, noglider@pobox.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-09, 10:13 AM   #17
Commando303
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Commando303's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 618
Thanks again, all.

*It occurs to me I started the same topic on two threads. I apologize: it must have slipped my mind I'd already created one. Perhaps a mod. could merge the two.
Commando303 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-09, 11:01 AM   #18
Pat
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Orlando, FL
Bikes: litespeed, cannondale
Posts: 2,795
Shoot shifters are made to shift. It does not matter which you use.

There are the old fashioned downtube shifters. They are not as convenient. But they are simple, easy to adjust and virtually indestructable.

There are also bar end shifters that used to be favored by fully loaded tourists.

As long as it does the job and you are happy with it, it is good enough.
Pat is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:33 PM.