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    Quote Originally Posted by DataJunkie View Post
    They do look interesting. I found a few dealers in my area and plan on checking them out when it is time to replace my bell. I also plan on looking at specialized helmets.
    I actually went from a Bell to a Uvex, and they have a very similar fit. Giro OTOH isn't good for the shape of my head, although my wife likes them.

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    Good to know. Giro does not fit me well either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipcom View Post
    They also have a much better chinstrap securing system and come standard with bug screens in the forward vents.
    Last fall I saw something down the path floating/coming towards me. I heard/felt it smack my helmet and since the flight pattern wasn't very "leaf-like" I stopped to check. Probably stunned from the headbutt at 20mph, a very large bee was just resting inside the helmet. I think we both would have appreciated the bug screen.

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    I've got two helmets, both Giros. One is a mid-priced thing that used to give me such horrible hat-hair that I could hardly bring myself to ride my bike unless I was sure I wasn't going to run into anybody on the way. I tried I don't know how many different haircuts to get around the problem, but it didn't matter: post-helmet, I always looked a fright. The other is a high-priced Atmos with oodles of ventilation that has pretty much completely solved the hat-hair problem. For women (I am one) that's worth a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuan View Post
    I can't seem to get over the price of the new Giro Ionos helmet. Over $200 for a helmet? And here I thought the price of an Atmos was already sky high a few years back!
    Funny how much people will pay to sooth their minds and fit in.

    This best guess page shows an estimate of $4.85 to make a helmet and this bulk purchase program shows a cost as low as $3 per helmet.

    I found another page that sells helmets at cost to groups for $3.65 each.

    $200 per helmet. And people buy 'em.
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    Just looked again at the $3.65 site and saw that there are different prices for lower quantities of helmets. You can buy 180 helmets for $4.35 and get free shipping.

    At that price ($184.35), it's still cheaper than the Ionos and you can crash 180 times for the one time with the Giro.



    Here's a (sad) fact. It's about profit. If someone wants to spend $200 instead of $5 or $10, what manufacturer is going to object?
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    Quote Originally Posted by closetbiker View Post
    Just looked again at the $3.65 site and saw that there are different prices for lower quantities of helmets. You can buy 180 helmets for $4.35 and get free shipping.

    At that price ($184.35), it's still cheaper than the Ionos and you can crash 180 times for the one time with the Giro.



    Here's a (sad) fact. It's about profit. If someone wants to spend $200 instead of $5 or $10, what manufacturer is going to object?

    CB, the average person doesn't buy a helmet on a weekly basis, so what if they want to pay extra for a helmet to get the style, fit, and comfort than your "bulk quantity" helmets. The average US motorist constantly hemorrhages the household budget on items that have little to show over time for the money spent (gasoline, insurance, vehicle depreciation, etc.)

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    I'd much rather make 45% of $200 than 45% of $20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dynodonn View Post
    CB, the average person doesn't buy a helmet on a weekly basis, so what if they want to pay extra for a helmet to get the style, fit, and comfort than your "bulk quantity" helmets. The average US motorist constantly hemorrhages the household budget on items that have little to show over time for the money spent (gasoline, insurance, vehicle depreciation, etc.)
    Hey, no problem if someone wants to pay more for style, but I doubt if you can't get a low-priced helmet to fit properly, and these helmets are just as effective for what a helmet was initially designed for than for what they have come to represent.

    Shelling out that much cash for a helmet seems to me to be not only a waste, but a statement that has more to do with symbolism and metaphor than safety
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    My employer sells bike helmets at special events for $5: http://www.legacyhealth.org/body.cfm?id=1015 . They ain't the greatest, but after seeing the results of a traumatic brain injury I think this is one freakin' good program.
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    I buy helmets on a frequent basis- at least every two years or so if not before.

    When I go to the LBS to buy a helmet- I start at the cheaper end of the market and work my way up. It has to feel comfortable- feel right and I hate to say it- Look right. I keep going up the price range till I am happy and it is surprising how many times I get near that $200 mark. And I am not fashion conscious but if I don't like a helmet- I will not wear it and go and buy another one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Wills View Post
    My employer sells bike helmets at special events for $5:...They ain't the greatest...
    but they still meet the standards don't they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by closetbiker View Post
    but they still meet the standards don't they?
    There are more than just basic standards to look at when buying a helmet. I like mine to have an on the fly adjustable fit, good ventilation, and a good chin strap, and I'll pay more than $5 for those features as I use my helmet almost every day. The below is from the website you linked to.

    And that is about as close as we can come for a very basic helmet. If you add things like rear stabilizers, better strap fittings that don't slip, reflective trim, sexy graphics or visors, the cost goes up. Those sell at Wal-Mart for about $25, indicating that the store gets a bigger markup when you get out of the basic helmets. If you want to mold the EPS in the shell to allow opening up larger vents, the shell has to be more expensive polycarbonate, since PET will melt in the mold, and those retail for $25 to $35 and up. If you have to add internal reinforcing in the foam to open up extreme vents, that adds a lot more in design, testing and manufacturing cost
    http://bhsi.org/helmcost.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by closetbiker View Post

    Shelling out that much cash for a helmet seems to me to be not only a waste, but a statement that has more to do with symbolism and metaphor than safety
    CB, consider me guilty of "symbolism", as you know already, I like wearing helmets, and I happen to like ones that I consider fashionable. I have not have paid 200 dollars for helmet, but I've paid three times the price of a standard entry level helmet for my Giro which has far superior cooling capabilities over my other helmets. As with wearing helmets, what I want to pay for one is my choice, and 200 dollars is not enough for me to be judgmental of what others wear.

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    i agree some are pricey...but cheapo helmets won't be very comfortable and you have to wear them for long periods of time. Also, barring any serious damage, it should last a long time so you get your money's worth. And of course, you're protecting your noggin...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dynodonn View Post
    ... I've paid three times the price of a standard entry level helmet for my Giro which has far superior cooling capabilities over my other helmets...
    I've paid far less for superior cooling capabilities too. $0 in fact. The coolest lid is no lid.
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    Why are we pricing out pro-elite race helmets for (what is apparently) utility cycling?

    Do people price out carbon GP Moto helmets to ride their 250cc motorcycle to work?

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    maybe because it's more about association than utility?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DataJunkie View Post
    I prefer the middle pricepoints. Your bang for the buck decreases the higher the price.
    I have yet to find a cheap helmet that I find comfortable.
    +1. I've found the mot comfortable helmets that have decent durability/construction are in the $70'ish range..

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    Quote Originally Posted by closetbiker View Post
    but they still meet the standards don't they?
    Yep... imagine the liability if a trauma hospital sold - even for $5 - non-approved helmets. Nevermind the lawyers... the villagers would be at the gates with torches and stakes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettocruiser View Post
    Why are we pricing out pro-elite race helmets for (what is apparently) utility cycling?

    Do people price out carbon GP Moto helmets to ride their 250cc motorcycle to work?
    Quote Originally Posted by closetbiker View Post
    maybe because it's more about association than utility?
    Why do you assume that we are taking about pro-elite helmets when we are talking about helmets that cost more than $5? closetbiker is the only one I've seen so far with any sort of posts about ultra-high end helmets......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Wills View Post
    Yep...
    so they should provide protection just as well as the $200 model.

    The extra $195 could be described as post-utilitarian.
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    My .02 cents. I cracked the occipital (rear) portion of a $40 Trek helmet in 1994 during a fall. I am convinced that it saved me from a severe TBI and possibly paralysis. If the $200 helmet prevents me from actually falling, I'd buy it but I'm a realist. In my job I see a lot of TBI patients most didn't want to shell out the 40 bucks for a helmet to begin with. We actually carry bike helmets on our ambulances to give out when we see un-helmeted riders in the county.

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    so what do you do with all the TBI patients who were wearing helmets?

    Actually, strike that. This isn't the thread to debate helmet use, this is.

    This thread is about how expensive helmets can be. Maybe if that $40 helmet cost $5 the person who didn't want to spend $40 would have bought one. Maybe if you could give them away for free more would wear them, but then again, maybe not. Maybe if they don't it has something more to do with the debate on their use rather than the cost.
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    All helmets must pass the same certification no matter if you buy a cheap $15 Walmart job or a $250 fancy job. Difference in price buys you comfort, air flow, and brand name bragging rights. Having said that, I have the Bell Metro that cost $45 but I don't think they make it anymore.

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