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    Sumanitu taka owaci LittleBigMan's Avatar
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    New treatment for diabetic infections

    There seems to be a new treatment for diabetics who suffer from
    hard-to-treat infections. The treatment has brought some promising results in cases with little hope (diabetics sometimes have difficulty fighting infections and even undergo amputation to stop the infection from spreading.)

    The treatment costs between $500 and $900 U.S. per session. The way it works is that it boosts the body's natural immunity. How is it done?

    The patient is placed in an enclosed "capsule" that looks like an infant's incubator. For the next few hours, the patient breathes
    air that contains about 6 times the normal amount of oxygen.

    I have heard some cyclists say that they kicked a cold after a good ride. Is there a connection?
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    Originally posted by Pete Clark
    I have heard some cyclists say that they kicked a cold after a good ride. Is there a connection?
    During the course of 2001 I had one of the worst illnesses I've had in the last decade (it is extremely rare for me to vomit, yet I did so twice in the space of a couple of weeks). I killed it off with a 150km ride. It remains to be seen whether this works for something like diabetes, but I know what I'd be trying first.
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    I will not claim that bicycling can cure adult-onset diabetes, but it can certainly prevent or control it.
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    Most diabetic injury complications are due to either progressive peripheral neuropathy or high blood glucose. The problem with neuropathy is that, due to loss of sensation in their extremities, out-of-control diabetics can be injured without knowing it. In some of the worst cases -- like Charcot's foot -- that can lead to an improperly-set bone injury that gets repeatedly re-injured. This is what Charcot's foot can look like:

    The problem with high glucose levels [above about 12 mmol/l] is that it can impede blodd clotting. This makes severe diabetics particularly prone to post-injury infection, in the event of an external wound.

    Another problem is that severe diabetics tend to have circulatory problems related to the neuropathy. This can lead to gangrene in the event of even a moderate injury. That's what usually necessitates amputation.

    I can't imagine what positive effect an oxygen-enriched atmosphere would have on any of these problems, to tell the truth.

    You have to keep in mind that diabetes is not one disease, but as many a fifty separate endocrine disorders that present with the same principal symptom -- a failure of the pancreas to produce sufficient insulin, or resistance to insulin. The vast majority of Type 2, or "adult-onset" diabetics have one of a number of forms of insulin resistance. The interesting thing is that insulin sensitivity can be greatly improved by a reduction of body fat and through aerobic exercise. Intense aerobic activity like cycling, in fact, can reduce insulin resistance to almost nothing and has the added bonus of reducing blood glucose.

    Type 2 diabetes is diagnosed solely by elevated blood glucose levels. A person with an elevated blood glucose level can bring it down to normal levels -- or lower -- solely through a regular exercise regimen and healthy diet. Consequently, I think it's fair to say that cycling, together with a healthy diet, can cure diabetes.

    [In case you're wondering, several members of my extended family have type 2 diabetes.]
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    Originally posted by velocipedio
    I can't imagine what positive effect an oxygen-enriched atmosphere would have on any of these problems, to tell the truth.
    I can't either.

    Then again, maybe the immune system is boosted by oxygen-enriched blood, something cyclists have plenty of!

    :thumbup:

    (My boss used to needle me about riding to work in the cold...he is sick more often than me, though... )

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    Originally posted by velocipedio
    Type 2 diabetes is diagnosed solely by elevated blood glucose levels. A person with an elevated blood glucose level can bring it down to normal levels -- or lower -- solely through a regular exercise regimen and healthy diet. Consequently, I think it's fair to say that cycling, together with a healthy diet, can cure diabetes.

    [In case you're wondering, several members of my extended family have type 2 diabetes.]
    That is precisely the message I wish my diabetic inlaws and other relatives would take to heart. I chose the word "control" instead of "cure," in the sense that a permanent lifestyle commitment is required. I am thankful that I have been hooked on cycling since age 12.
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    I'm not too sure about Diabetes, but I do know that
    recompression chambers are used to treat some injuries,
    breath high concentration O2 at increased pressure.
    The chambers aren't used to just treat the bends....
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    I am late coming in on this thread, but I am a type 2 diabetic that is in pretty good shape and have been exercising regularly for 14 years and I am 49 years old. My doctor told me several months ago that I needed to double my medication because my blood sugar was getting high.

    Not wanting to do this I thought if I could raise my activity level a little more I could maintain and not take more medicine so I stated riding a bike on most days I don't go to the gym. To make a long story short instead of doubling my medication I have cut in half and my goal is to get off it completely.

    I think doctors sometimes take the easy way out by prescribing medicine but on the other hand most people wouldn't do what I did.

    If anyone knows a type 2 diabetic that is having problems get their *** on a bike. I have only been riding again for a few months and already riding 26 + miles atleast 1 day a week and 10 or more a couple other days.

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    Hyperbaric chambers are used to treat Diabetic infections because many of the organisms (particularly those that cause gangrene) that are involved grow best in low or even no oxygen
    environments. Higher pressure helps the O2 penetrate the tissues, thereby slowing the growth of the bacteria.

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