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Old 07-12-09, 01:50 AM   #1
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Kryptonite new york cut...

I dont know if this is the right place but in need a place to rant if not please relocate it to the right spot. My bike got stolen tonight, they clipped my New York Kryptonite.

I parked it out side of my school in downtown Vancouver on homer and pender at 6:45pm and went to the bar to watch UFC 100 with some of my classmates. After a few beers and some good fights i walked back to campus to see my bike not at the rack and my locks on the ground. I called 911, they gave me the contact info to the non emergency police number. I informed her the bike was worth about 1700 cad not knowing what the larceny laws are up here. In a lot of states 1000 and up woth of property is grand larceny and subsequently a felony and in my eyes THIS WAS A F***ING EMERGENCY. My friends took the number down on their phones, I hung up and dialed the number into mine. I was put on hold and turned speaker phone on so i didnt have to hold my phone to my ear if it was going to be half an hour. At that point i couldn't hold it any more and i burst out "F***, F***, F***, F*** THEM THOSE BALL LESS CO-" "Hello, sir? "-CK SUCKERS!!! Oh, I'm sorry... my bike was stolen." Then I proceeded to give her the details and found out no one was coming to take prints. I told her that the bike was worth 1700 about three times, but nothing came of that. I got my case number asked her a few questions about what happened next and hung up. Scrounged the only pictures of the bike i had and posted on craigs list http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/com/1265604424.html , then printed out a list of all the pawn shops in the area that i will have to go to this week to check and see if its there. I was still very much stewing in bad intentions, so i wandered out down east Hastings to see if any one had traded it for some crack or was riding it. No Luck. So here i am, this was my first road bike. I don't have money for another one and just put 700 bucks in to new front wheel, rear and front derailleur, cassette, chain, and tires because i was planing on going for a three day bike trip on vancouver island on my next school break, since I'm moving back to the states when I graduate in October. I fell like **** but thanks for the space to vent I feel a little better and if anyone is in the Vancouver area there is a reward for getting me enough info to get this back. Please keep you eye out for it.

This quote from pulp fiction fits how im feeling right now.
"Vincent: Boy, I wish I could've caught him doing it. I'd have given anything to catch that ******* doing it. It'd been worth him doing it just so I could've caught him doing it."





My guess is they put a blanket over the top and went to town with power tools.






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a black and a silver water bottle cage.

no rack on it, that's in my garage.

and a Blackburn 4.0 w/ wireless speed on front wheel and wired cadance on the back ( i have the computer but the mount is still on the bike)

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Old 07-12-09, 01:57 AM   #2
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That sucks.

It does serve as proof that if the thief is motivated enough, there is not a lock that can stop them.

I would also post notices in the Edmonton and Calgary CL lists as this is where a good number of the bikes stolen from Vancouver end up.
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Old 07-12-09, 11:57 AM   #3
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Terrible news. I believe when a pond shop gets something like a bike they need to store it in the back for X amount of days before displaying- to ensure it's not stolen???? I read this some where but I may be wrong. I'd check with the police dept and ask. If this is the case you're ride won't be on display for a while- just something to consider.

I read posts like this and wonder what lock or lock combo is good?
Post a pic of your bike in this thread. Perhaps it might help.
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Here in Alberta pawn shops have to file daily reports on incoming items... most will not take bicycles any more as just about every one that is pawned has also been stolen.
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Craigslist is strange- I edited your ad as a proof in concept that it could be done--- from your link--- signed it FS. You might want to close the security hole before someone actually vandalizes your ad!
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I fixed the ad, 125 also brought this to my attention. Thank you.
Ugg, I hope to god that it doesn't leave this city. When i was in crack town i wanted to find someone riding it so bad, although in hind sight i would have probably ended up in jail if i did.
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If I'm going shopping or such where I leave my bike unattended, I now ride an old 3-speed with a basket. And a Kryptonite lock. With my two custom machines - I do not take my eyes off of them. Ever.

Best of luck getting your bike back. I hope the thief gets his legs removed with a chainsaw.
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Old 07-12-09, 05:34 PM   #9
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I had been parking it there for 8 months and no problem with that lock, or so I thought. Maybe i got scouted and marked. This was my commuter that I was slowly upgrading to not be. I rode it to school and around town on a daily basis. I hate public transportation.
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In general there is no metal that can stand up to modern cutting tools. My guess is that a hack saw with a fresh blade can cut through the best locks in about 15 min.

I have seen GPS trackers with text messaging, poor mans lojack. If you have an expensive bike that might work for you.

IMO, the purpose of a bike lock is to increase the amount of work it takes to steal your bike to the point it is not worth the effort. For that to happen you need a fairly cheap bike to start with.
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IMO, the purpose of a bike lock is to increase the amount of work it takes to steal your bike to the point it is not worth the effort...
Someone understands your sentiment...

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I was thinking about doing something like that when I get my next bike. But more of the big onguard chains. I took my rack off for a week and it gets stolen... Should have left it on it might have been the visual eye sore that they turned away from. Bike rack camouflage if you will.

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In general there is no metal that can stand up to modern cutting tools. My guess is that a hack saw with a fresh blade can cut through the best locks in about 15 min.

I have seen GPS trackers with text messaging, poor mans lojack. If you have an expensive bike that might work for you.

IMO, the purpose of a bike lock is to increase the amount of work it takes to steal your bike to the point it is not worth the effort. For that to happen you need a fairly cheap bike to start with.
Generally the NY locks have hard enough steel so a standard hacksaw blade will do very little. I would expect that a carbide hacksaw blade was used or a battery poiwered abrasive cutoff tool. I tried a normal hacksaw blade on my NYF U lock as an experiment with minimal effect. It was a good quality Nicholson bi-metallic blade.

Against the right power tools no lock or chain is very resistant unfortunately.
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That sucks.

It does serve as proof that if the thief is motivated enough, there is not a lock that can stop them.

I would also post notices in the Edmonton and Calgary CL lists as this is where a good number of the bikes stolen from Vancouver end up.
True.. What one man puts together another can take apart.
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Generally the NY locks have hard enough steel so a standard hacksaw blade will do very little. I would expect that a carbide hacksaw blade
Yes I meant carbide, but these days carbide blades are sold everywhere. Battery powered tools have come a long way too, I was surprised at some of the Hilti tools.

On the other hand the large number of abandoned bikes indicates that if your bike is not that nice, people won't put the effort into stealing it.
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I have a question for the original poster. What kind of tool did they use? Can you tell?
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i have no idea, i know they had to try in about 20 spots to get the cut in the corner of the u lock. My roommate who is a machinist said maybe a zip cutter. Either way that would have to make some noise, and when I found the lock there were at least 10 people within eye sight and ear shot of the bike rack.

Someone on craigs list said they saw my bike twice today in crack town, so my hopes are up a bit. Time to put some scouring time in.
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Can't you claim you loss with Krypton?
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Someone on craigs list said they saw my bike twice today in crack town, so my hopes are up a bit. Time to put some scouring time in.
It would be amazing if you could recover it, but what is the protocol if you are to see it? I would buy a cheap U lock and try it slap it on there until the cops can show up, that is, if its not moving...
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If it is moving - an old Silca Impero pump-in-the-spokes works wonders to remove the rider.
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What about the insurance that Kryptonite claims?
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What about the insurance that Kryptonite claims?
well, if Kryptonite's insurance is anything like OnGuards, good luck with that:

http://consumerist.com/5310313/free-...ects-all-bikes

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7. This coverage is not free, you must pay for it
8. The coverage is void if "Torches, battery operated tools or power tools were used to open the lock."

Here's a thread on the kryptonite insurance plan:

Kryptonite Theft Insurance.

Don't you have home or renter's insurance? I would think it would be covered under that.
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8. The coverage is void if "Torches, battery operated tools or power tools were used to open the lock."
Well duh, that makes it all pretty meaningless, doesn't it.

Talk about not worth the paper it's printed on.
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I can't tell what's in the first picture...

I'd love to see the remnants of that Kryptonite lock though
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The first photos is of a white blanket and a garbage bag ripped open. I found the lock on top of the bag on the ground and the blanket on top of the rack when i found my locks. I figured they draped it over the bike rack. and had what ever tool covered by the bag.

I now carry that small chunk of lock with me in my bag, that would work wonders as well in the front spokes. I would be more than willing to replace the front wheel again if it meant i was going to get my bike back.

I can take more photos of the locks tonight if your interested.
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