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Old 08-17-09, 04:56 PM   #1
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List of builders who don't outsource their bikes

Let's build a list where people can find builders from XYZ country who do not outsource their building operation. For some this may be irrelevant but for others such as myself it is #2 priority next to quality of craftsmanship.

Rules: The builder must be from whatever country and not outsource their frame building to any other country.

Please add your own lists, corrections, suggestions, etc. Let's not make this a fight thread like the one found here. Let's just keep this a friendly list.

I'll start.

OREGON, USA builders

http://www.hufnagelcycles.com/

http://belladonnacycles.com/

http://www.lucky13bikes.com/

http://www.milhollandcycles.com/

ITALIAN

http://www.ciclicasati.it/

http://www.tommasini.com/

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You're not counting the big manufacturers who do a few frames in-house even as they outsource most of the rest of their line?
I prefer not because most of their lineup is outsourced, BUT, if someone wants to add to the list post the specific models that are NOT outsourced. Perhaps if enough people buy such frames the company might shift more of their bikes back to their original country.

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Old 08-17-09, 05:13 PM   #2
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You're not counting the big manufacturers who do a few frames in-house even as they outsource most of the rest of their line?
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I believe most of the Asian manufacturers do not outsource, and so would fit your qualifications. For example, I have an Arpan bicycle, which, so far as I know, really is built in India. www.arpan.com. Eastman bicycles, made in India, available here: http://www.yellowjersey.org/EASTMAN.HTML. While researching "low gravity" bicycles a while back, it seemed like I ran across about a dozen Indian manufacturers, all serving primarly their domestic market.
Worksman, made in NYC: www.worksmancycles.com
Aerofast/ Emory, made in Florida: http://www.aerofast.com/
Mohawk and Summit make industrial bikes, and might make them here, I couldn't find for sure.
I think Caloi still makes bicycles in Brazil, and until recently, had a US importer selling them here. The current CaloiUSA link seems to be unrelated to the company, almost, but the home page is her: www.caloi.com
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Per their web site it appears that Serotta bikes are still made in the USA.
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Good work guys keep them coming!!
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Well, it's true. The two largest bicylce manufacturers in the world certainly don't outsource their production. Now, can anyone name all the badges/brands that are produced by those two gorillas?
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sorry bigfred...you are correct, I was rolling eyes at this thread in general not at your specific post.
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sorry bigfred...you are correct, I was rolling eyes at this thread in general not at your specific post.
This wise gentleman said it best:

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If someone is going to be dropping thousands of dollars on anything, they should be able to be as specific about the origin of the product as they want.
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OREGON, USA

http://www.strawberrybicycle.com/

http://www.sproutcycles.com/
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THANK YOU CASRIDER for this private message. I hope it is okay I repost it:

ITALIAN

Casati - Monza, Italy
Colnago - as far as I know still make all of their frames in Italy save for three entry level aluminum bikes and the carbon CLX
De Rosa - Milan, Italy
Olmo - Celle Ligure, Italy
Pinarello - Italy
Time - France
Look
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Tommasini - Grosseto, Italy
Massimo - I think they are custom handbuilt in Milan Italy and shipped to one specific shop in the US that does your measurements, fitting, full bike assembly, and ordering
Viner - Pistoia, Italy
Ciocc - Italy
Moser - Italy, they also make components in Italy http://www.mosercycles.com/
Carrera - Italy
Mondonico - handbuilt Italian, 2nd or 3rd generation family shop
Bernardi aka DeBernardi - Italian http://www.bernardibiciclette.com/
Basso - Italy http://www.bassobikes.com/
Cinelli - Italy, part of Gruppo SpA in Caleppio di Settala, Gruppo also own Columbus - from which most Italian brands get their tubing
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Another gentleman also said this..."Do not want my frame to ever have touched Taiwan."
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Another OREGON USA builder:

http://ridecourage.com/
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Cervelo is made in China, right?
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I've bought bikes thinking they were American bikes. Such as Surly. To find out they aren't.
.. Anyone know about Litespeed..? Located in Tennessee. How do we know they don't outsource. ?
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And yet another OREGON USA builder.

http://www.co-motion.com/
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For U.S. made I suspect that the big clue is whether they offer custom dimensioned frames or not. There are apparently a lot of American custom framebuilders.

Della Santa Cycles in Reno is one example.
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I've bought bikes thinking they were American bikes. Such as Surly. To find out they aren't.
.. Anyone know about Litespeed..? Located in Tennessee. How do we know they don't outsource. ?

I feel your pain (Surly)

I sent Litespeed an e-mail asking this question. Once I get a response I'll post it
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It's confusing what is made where these days... Or who owns who.
For the MFGs that don't out source(yet), who knows how long they'll be that way.


Bianchi - Famous for "Made in Italy" sticker, which usually means assembled in Italy using a frame made in Asia.

Cannondale - Made in Taiwan.

Cervelo - Bikes are made in Asia and assembled in Canada.

Colnago - Some entry level aluminum models and the carbon CLX are made in Taiwan.

De Rosa - Made in Italy. Has outsourced to Litespeed.

Felt - Made in Asia.

Fisher - Bikes are made in Asia, except for the full-suspension rigs(U.S.)

Fuji - Made in Asia.

Giant - Made in Taiwan. Made frames for at least Bianchi, Colnago, Trek, Specialized and Schwinn.

Haro - All production comes from Asia, factories in Tawan and China.

Jamis - Designed in the U.S. and made in Asia.

Kestrel - Production shifted to Asia.

Kona - Made in Asia.

Kuota - Frames are made in Taiwan.

Litespeed made in U.S. (?)
Did outsourcing for at least:
DeRosa
Merckx
Tommassini
Basso
Univega
Alpinestars
Marin
Rocky Mountain

The Quintana Roo brand is owned by Litespeed and the products are made in Asia.


Look - Frames made in France and Asia.

Marin - Made in Asia, except for some of the high-end models.

Masi - Now owned by Haro and the bikes are made in Asia.

Olmo - Made in Italy.(?)

Orbea - Made in Spain and Asia.

Pinarello - Some frames are now made in Taiwan, including the aluminum Galileo.
Some of the carbon frames are made in Asia then shipped to Italy for
painting and assembly.

Raleigh - Made in Asia.

Schwinn - Most bikes sold in the U.S. are made in Asia.

Scot - Made in Asia.

Serotta - Made in the U.S.

Seven - Made in the U.S.

Specialized - Made in Taiwan.

Time - Made in France.

Trek - Entry level bikes are made in Asia.

Tommasini - Made in Italy. Has outsourced to Litespeed.

Waterford - Made in the U.S.


Disclaimer: based on 2008 info. It may be different now.
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Re: Time Bonktown has had a lower level Time carbon frame thats made in Taiwan a few times, so I wouldn't say all of them are made in france.

Oh and since when did Alpinestars make bicycles???
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I feel your pain (Surly)

I sent Litespeed an e-mail asking this question. Once I get a response I'll post it
Since I bought my Klein before Trek back stabbed us: I think I do have one US made bike with my Klein.. Handmade in Washington State I think..
Next bike. If i want a US made bike.. Litespeed..?... They are less costly than a Waterford...?..
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