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    Pain in L-5 Vertebrae, maybe?

    Last dr visit, I mentioned a pain I started having in my very low back. Dr told me it was my L-5 vertebrae, and just start taking a couple Advil's before I ride. I'd rather find the cause of the pain. Any suggestions, such as need to reposition my seat????? Saddle is a Brooks B-17 Sprung, bike is a Felt Z100 road bike.
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    MRI time.
    Only way to know.
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    Wow. Same, or similar pain since an accident a few years ago involving a chipped L-5, and several fractures of the pelvis. Same saddle, too (Brooks Champion Flyer is a sprung B-17). So, I took off the Brooks and went back to the nicely padded OEM saddle. I gave it several months before going back to the Brooks. The Brooks is better, at least for me. This is on the Giant Cypress, so I'm probably putting more weight on the saddle than you would on a road bike.

    I'm betting your seat position is about right. If you are hitting on the sit bones, and not constantly having to reposition yourself, it is probably right, though you probably should try different positions.

    Put me down as empathetic, rather than offering solutions. For myself, my rides are shorter, and not as much fun.
    Some people are like a Slinky ... not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10 Wheels View Post
    MRI time.
    Only way to know.
    There's a reason people really shouldn't get MRI's first line. Too many false positives, doesn't find the nociceptive generator, etc, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nermal View Post
    Wow. Same, or similar pain since an accident a few years ago involving a chipped L-5, and several fractures of the pelvis. Same saddle, too (Brooks Champion Flyer is a sprung B-17). So, I took off the Brooks and went back to the nicely padded OEM saddle. I gave it several months before going back to the Brooks. The Brooks is better, at least for me. This is on the Giant Cypress, so I'm probably putting more weight on the saddle than you would on a road bike.

    I'm betting your seat position is about right. If you are hitting on the sit bones, and not constantly having to reposition yourself, it is probably right, though you probably should try different positions.

    Put me down as empathetic, rather than offering solutions. For myself, my rides are shorter, and not as much fun.
    Yesterday, I decided to try a different saddle that I had laying around, a Terry Liberator saddle. Hard to say if improvement. Did an 18 mile ride yesterday and today. Doesn't feel as comfortable to my skin, but will see for awhile.
    About the only relief I was finding with the Brooks was the hydrocodone my dr gave me for the rotator cuff problem I occasionally have.
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    Well, the left over hydrocodone is a swell solution. Fortunately, or maybe not, the supply is very limited. I'm not getting into rotator cuff and frozen shoulder problems.
    Some people are like a Slinky ... not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.

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    I have a long history of back problems including surgery.
    The one thing I've learned thru 2 years of rehab and surrounded by other patients, is that the solution is almost always the same: develop a very strong core and become flexible. If you're not on a balanced, core-centric strength building program, get on one (preferably with a top-level trainer) Cycling alone is not nearly enough. Use ice and anti-inflammatories to get you thru the rough spots.
    +1 on proper fit too

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5kdad View Post
    Last dr visit, I mentioned a pain I started having in my very low back. Dr told me it was my L-5 vertebrae, and just start taking a couple Advil's before I ride. I'd rather find the cause of the pain. Any suggestions, such as need to reposition my seat????? Saddle is a Brooks B-17 Sprung, bike is a Felt Z100 road bike.
    Go see someone with better training and you'll get your answer.

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    Try "Mackenzie" technique possibly,or see a Physiotherapist.

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    or find a cycling chiropractor....
    As with mud, life, too, slides by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhkyte View Post
    Try "Mackenzie" technique possibly
    -1 I used to council people with back problems, as a way to give back to all the people who helped me when I couldn't walk for 2.5 years, and I must have talked to 25+ people who severely injured themselves with Mackenzie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bokes View Post
    -1 I used to council people with back problems, as a way to give back to all the people who helped me when I couldn't walk for 2.5 years, and I must have talked to 25+ people who severely injured themselves with Mackenzie.
    Not if understood correctly, best if done with supervision of a physiotherapist.

    Mackenzie technique does not generally result in many problems from the studies I have read. There is a large pyshco social misconception amounst many suffers of long term lower back pain. This may be the "injuries" you had reported to you.

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    Saying a particular course of therapy "does not generally result in many problems" is not what I would call a resounding endorsement. Just saying. . . .
    Some people are like a Slinky ... not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.

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