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    electronic gear change

    I've just bought my first bike with the gear change built into the brake levers - brifters? - and I think they're brilliant. Mind you, I haven't ridden the bike very much - early days. Imagine my delight when I saw this video on Youtube that my son sent to me. Apologies if this is old news but thought I'd share it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXVhm3xakq0
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    Sorry to break it to you, but this is very, very old news. And the system in question costs in excess of $5k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aljohn View Post
    I've just bought my first bike with the gear change built into the brake levers - brifters? - and I think they're brilliant. Mind you, I haven't ridden the bike very much - early days. Imagine my delight when I saw this video on Youtube that my son sent to me. Apologies if this is old news but thought I'd share it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXVhm3xakq0
    Albert
    Well, sort of old news, I'd seen another older system ( SRAM?) but was unaware of this one. Others more into racing certainly knew of it. Not really suitable for my use, and, $4,000 for the groupset? Ow! Ow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svr View Post
    Shimano's group isn't THAT old. I'd wager that there would be quite a few improvements in the fifteen years since that appeared.

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    electronic gear change

    Doh! And I was so excited.....in another 5 years they'll be really cheap and I'll be able to afford one. And there won't be any problems with a 5 year old, well thrashed, electronic gear mechanism, will there?
    But this forum will be able to sort out any problems I may have.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by aljohn View Post
    Doh! And I was so excited.....in another 5 years they'll be really cheap and I'll be able to afford one. And there won't be any problems with a 5 year old, well thrashed, electronic gear mechanism, will there?
    But this forum will be able to sort out any problems I may have.........
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    Of course not, servos never strip gears, get stuck, burn up, wear out the pot, have problems with the signal wire, or short out when wet. At least in a perfect world they don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarracksSi View Post
    Shimano's group isn't THAT old. I'd wager that there would be quite a few improvements in the fifteen years since that appeared.

    Yeah, but electronic shifting has been around since the late 1970s.

    http://www.bikeman.com/content/view/920/47/

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    And then you can buy a robot to ride the bike for you!
    How do you keep an idiot in suspense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svr View Post
    Yeah, thats the one I had seen before. Mavic huh? I knew it wasn't Shimano.

    One advantage I can see is for users of aero bars, it makes it pretty easy to fit auxiliary change mechanisms. No worrying about synchronizing the shift point.

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    IMHO opinion this is a solution in search of a problem.
    i may have overreacted

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    I agree the Shimano Electric shift cost too much. I agree most of us don’t need one, unless you might be a pro racer. But I also admit the concept of a trim control that sets itself every time you shift is interesting. It becomes even more interesting as we get more gear selections on the rear Cassette. Aren’t they now producing a 11speed Campy?

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    Now that's another topic - 11 speed cassettes! Why? My 2 bikes have a 7 speed cassette and an 8 speed. I never thought I'd see the day when I would use more than 10 gears - 5 speed and 2 chainrings. The 7 and 8 both work faultlessly, but I'm still unconvinced that I would ever really need more than 10. The 7 speed is on an old Italian racing bike -Somec - with very short chainstays. I don't fancy an 11 cassette on that , I know the pros will use them but they have a mechanic to sort out any problems - even while they are riding.... A long wheelbase tourer would perhaps be more suitable but I still don't see the necessity.
    Thanks edp773 for putting my mind at rest on the electronic change, nice to know they'll be faultless.
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    I think a cheap, electronically controlled gear change could be really popular on lower end bikes (uh, well relatively lower end). Imagine that you could buy a bike and would never have to go back to the bike store to get the cables/derailleur adjusted! They could build a super low powered dynamo into the front wheel to charge the battery for the system so you would never need to plug it in.

    Imagine how much your non-biker friends would like to never have to deal with cable stretch or derailler adjustments again. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulRivers View Post
    I think a cheap, electronically controlled gear change could be really popular on lower end bikes (uh, well relatively lower end). Imagine that you could buy a bike and would never have to go back to the bike store to get the cables/derailleur adjusted! They could build a super low powered dynamo into the front wheel to charge the battery for the system so you would never need to plug it in.

    Imagine how much your non-biker friends would like to never have to deal with cable stretch or derailler adjustments again. :-)
    Shimano's Coasting system does just that, with a front dynohub providing the power for the 3-speed automatic rear hub.

    Okay, so it's a three speed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panthers007 View Post
    And then you can buy a robot to ride the bike for you!

    "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panthers007 View Post
    And then you can buy a robot to ride the bike for you!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srwk-i5aXRQ

    (notice that it uses countersteering to initiate turns.. )

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    I'm still trying to find a need for brifters.
    Everything should be as simple as possible...But not more so.---Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Booger1 View Post
    I'm still trying to find a need for brifters.
    The logical extension, then, is to not use gears or pneumatic tires.

    Eh, whatever -- everyone's allowed to be a retrogrouch. I've got a Brooks that I'll move to whatever fancy carbon or titanium bike I get in the future.

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    but can you reach down and unplug your friends rear derailluer while riding? my boss put that Mavic (actually I put it on) and we used to unplug while he was waiting to go on group rides or stoplights. once or twice I got real daring and did it while we were moving. *giggle*
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