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Old 09-17-09, 02:56 PM   #1
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Things I do NOT get!

People riding bikes in flip-flops... especially the kinds that are so worn, there about 3mm of material on the soles.

Clipless pedals... that you use to clip yourself into.

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Old 09-17-09, 03:08 PM   #2
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As in.. why are they called "clipless" if you have to clip into them? I've never understood that. Or why anyone would use them. I shift foot position depending on the kind of riding I'm doing. For cold starts with a heavy trailer I put the back of my foot down. For climbing it's closer to my toes. For cruising somewhere in between.
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They are called clipless because the old kind of pedal had "toe clips" i.e. straps and cleats, where the modern kind have cleats but not the toe clips. The cleats work like ski bindings rather than just a spike that catches on the pedal. So no clip = clipless. However the idea of being "clipped in" still stuck around, hence the naming paradox.

As for why you want to use them... It's easier to transfer power across the entire pedalstroke, not just the downstroke. And they are especially useful and more secure when sprinting or climbing out if the saddle.
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They are called clipless because the old kind of pedal had "toe clips" i.e. straps and cleats, where the modern kind have cleats but not the toe clips. The cleats work like ski bindings rather than just a spike that catches on the pedal. So no clip = clipless. However the idea of being "clipped in" still stuck around, hence the naming paradox.

As for why you want to use them... It's easier to transfer power across the entire pedalstroke, not just the downstroke. And they are especially useful and more secure when sprinting or climbing out if the saddle.
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Toe clips used to be used in conjunction with a cleated shoe (occasionally) that engaged the rear of the pedal. You had to tighten down the straps over the shoe to hold the foot in place. But the strap also serve the function of allowing you to pull up on the pedal. So track racers still use cleated shoes, toe clips and straps.

The cleat is still there for clipless. The toe clip is just gone.
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The cleat is still there for clipless. The toe clip is just gone.
that's what I said
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Old 09-17-09, 08:40 PM   #6
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your shoes need a polish...
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Never had the option for a cleat on the several pairs of Bata Bikers that I used with toe clips.
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#1: Convenience. People that ride in flip-flops aren't concerned with safety or pedaling efficiency.

Things I don't get:
Why is it called a TV set when you only get one?
Why is it called the Secret Service when everyone knows about it?
Why do we drive on parkways and park on driveways?
Why are they called apartments when they're all stuck together?

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Old 09-19-09, 07:31 AM   #9
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There seems to be 2 well defined schools of thought as to how much toe-clips do or don't help. Some swear they are great, some swear at them. Personally I have issues with attaching "sporting equipment" to my body... my collection of ski poles have all had the wrist straps cut off.

Speaking of shoes, at the beginning of thee summer I was using an old ratty pair of sneakers... the knubby soles had come off so all it had was a smooth rubber surface. But they were pretty ratty, I dug into the closet and came upo with a pair of Performance "bike" shoes I had used 15 years ago (still fit just fine). Knobs and grooves and all, clearly meant to better interface with the pedal.

FGor the kind of biking I do, the old ratty ones I seem to prefer. The ones designed to mate have meant I spent an inordinate amount of time (IMO) gettingm them into the right position. Because I must take them off the poedel to reset. I seem to spend the forst 50 yeards fussing to get my feet positioned... with the smooth surface, they slide easily and I can do it without looking.

BTW, those smooth soles seem to not slip around at all... they are rubber (if very thin) and the pedals have ribbed edges meant to provide some measure of grip.

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So here's my next set:

14 year olds in clothing looking like they came from a dumpster around the housing projects in NYC riding fully suspended MTBs that probably cost 2-4 grand.

Guy riding a folder... not so unmusual, but this one, I swear, had 8" wheels.

Normal sized guys riding bikes meant for 6 year olds... they do NOT even get to a 90 degree bend on downstrokes and if they bent their headsa at all, they are in danger of having their knees breaking their teeth.
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Old 09-19-09, 08:21 AM   #10
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Wouldn't it be nice to change scenery and leave NYC for a while?
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I don't get why people pass me then slow down.

I don't get why joggers with headphones dart into the street without looking.

I don't get why when I blow the horn for someone doing something stupid they give ME the finger.

I don't understand how a glorified styrofoam cup is considered a legal safety helmet.

I don't understand how people can spend so much time on the Internet while at work.
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Old 09-19-09, 08:25 AM   #12
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People who spend $$$ on a bike and don't lube the chain. I have a whole rant on this but I'll just sum it up with a simple
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Old 09-19-09, 09:58 AM   #13
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Personally I have issues with attaching "sporting equipment" to my body... my collection of ski poles have all had the wrist straps cut off.
I hope all your skis have the bindings ripped out too. I also hope you are staunchly anti-helmet.
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Old 09-19-09, 10:20 AM   #14
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I do not get this thread.
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I don't get why people are so damn stupid.
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Old 09-19-09, 12:20 PM   #16
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A couple more...
Folks riding upper-end full-suspension mountain bikes equipped as roadsters. Mirrors and all that...

Folks with multi-speed bikes laboriously climbing hills in way-too-high gears, or even getting off and pushing....

Folks with roadsters who seem to have their hands welded into "the drops" instead of using the multi-position qualities of standard road bars.

Folks who seem terrified to use the front brakes....
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There seems to be 2 well defined schools of thought as to how much toe-clips do or don't help. Some swear they are great, some swear at them. Personally I have issues with attaching "sporting equipment" to my body... my collection of ski poles have all had the wrist straps cut off.
Best you avoid skydiving then.
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Old 09-20-09, 07:45 AM   #18
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I do not get this thread.
Vent, let off steam? Except for the typical pointless attack posts, I find it interesting to see what others peeves may be.
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Roadies that hold up traffic when there is plenty of room to move over, they wont have to slow down, and only need to do it for a few seconds.

Roadies that ride two abreast and don't give a crap about others on the road.

Spending over $300 on a fixed gear bike with no brakes, and not racing it.

Driving a car with 425hp at 10mph UNDER the speed limit everywhere you go.

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Posts such as Totaled108's.
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I bought a house in South Central Los Angeles and have seen the worst of the worst, most on bikes. I always ask myself:
1. Where are they riding to in the middle of the day?
2. How long have they been riding on a flat?
3. Don't they realize their bike is too small?
4. When was the last time they lubed their chain
5. How are they able to ride after hitting the pipe?
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Old 09-20-09, 08:37 PM   #22
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I do not get this thread.
It lets you know who you can add to your ignore list.
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Old 09-20-09, 10:25 PM   #23
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I dont get people that own bikes, all the gear, but take their bike to a shop for a FLAT TIRE! Yes, Ive seen it, it was a $900 road bike. I had to leave the shop before I said something stupid. And no, the guy was NOT riding it, he brought it in with a car.
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Old 09-20-09, 10:44 PM   #24
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Why am I willing to suffer on a bike to reach a speed or climb a hill, when nobody will ever know?
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nymtber....Tell me about it. We buy our police bike stuff at a local roadie shop, a high-end kind of joint.

Most everytime I'm there, someone will come in with their uber-expensive road chariot, wearing all their Pearl Izumi gear, and want some trivial adjustment made to the bike.
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