Right and Left?
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Right and Left?
I made a big assumption last night when I called out "On your left" to a mom and her little kid. Obviously, the little kid didn't know his right from his left. He cut right in front of me on the bike trail. Rather than crushing the kid or riding into oncoming bike traffic, I ditched. Got a scraped up arm and a bent derailleur hanger out of it. The mom and the kid didn't even show any concern but a few riders came by and offered their assistance.
Could have been worse but I definitely need to be more careful around kids.
Could have been worse but I definitely need to be more careful around kids.
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You need to practice kicking the 3-4 year olds to the side when riding by. It's all in the placement of your shoe against their hipbone. It sends them right to the ground.
In all honesty, nobody remembers right or left and anybody wearing an iPod won't hear you at all.
In all honesty, nobody remembers right or left and anybody wearing an iPod won't hear you at all.
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They hear "mm mmm LEFT", so they turn to look left and, as humans tend to do, they swerve left (cyclists and drivers do it, too).
Just get a bell or squeaky horn, use it (or just call out, "Ding ding!", which always gets a chuckle), and slow down as you pass.
I quit saying "On your left" a long time ago. If I say anything, it's just, "You're good, you're good," which lets them know that I'm back there, I'm keeping an eye out for them, and whatever path they're maintaining isn't a problem for me.
And, yup, I repeat it, because from their perspective, a sudden voice out of nowhere gets interpreted as a surprising sound, and they're too busy being startled to remember to pay attention to what the words actually are.
Just get a bell or squeaky horn, use it (or just call out, "Ding ding!", which always gets a chuckle), and slow down as you pass.
I quit saying "On your left" a long time ago. If I say anything, it's just, "You're good, you're good," which lets them know that I'm back there, I'm keeping an eye out for them, and whatever path they're maintaining isn't a problem for me.
And, yup, I repeat it, because from their perspective, a sudden voice out of nowhere gets interpreted as a surprising sound, and they're too busy being startled to remember to pay attention to what the words actually are.
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As the one overtaking you are responsible for a safe pass.Sorry you went down but to rely on others for your safety will always end badly.
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"Passing left" seems to get better responses from adults (who speak english), at least....
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Use a bell and slow down when in doubt?
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Bike ≠ Car ≠ Ped.
Guess I'll post it...
The universally recognized power of the bicycle bell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_MphtzCOEc
The universally recognized power of the bicycle bell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_MphtzCOEc
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It is so rare that I even see anyone to pass. I am not sure what I would do. LOL
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I'll slow down and make sure the parents are aware of me. (They are usually in the rear). Then they will warn the kids. Once I am sure I know what the kid is doing then I pass. I will always thank the child or complement his/her bike.
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Bike ≠ Car ≠ Ped.
I joked with him, "It's like they were warming up their tires," which got him to chuckle, and I finished my pass. No harm, no foul, and a few seconds of entertainment.
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I made a big assumption last night when I called out "On your left" to a mom and her little kid. Obviously, the little kid didn't know his right from his left. He cut right in front of me on the bike trail. Rather than crushing the kid or riding into oncoming bike traffic, I ditched. Got a scraped up arm and a bent derailleur hanger out of it. The mom and the kid didn't even show any concern but a few riders came by and offered their assistance.
Could have been worse but I definitely need to be more careful around kids.
Could have been worse but I definitely need to be more careful around kids.
Any warning needs to be done at least twice. The first time gets attention (hopefully), the second gets comprehension (hopefully).
People passing often expect that people are going to respond much more quickly (and correctly) than is reasonable.
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There is some truth to the repeating of statements.
I was in my own little world Saturday concentrating on fighting a 15mph wind up hill, when a voice behind me said, "The wind is brutal today huh?" as this 20 something whizzed right by and I about made new racing stripes in my shorts being startled out of my concentration.
So to me it makes sens that you ring the bell twice or repeat your statement again so everyone gets on the same page. ;-)
I was in my own little world Saturday concentrating on fighting a 15mph wind up hill, when a voice behind me said, "The wind is brutal today huh?" as this 20 something whizzed right by and I about made new racing stripes in my shorts being startled out of my concentration.
So to me it makes sens that you ring the bell twice or repeat your statement again so everyone gets on the same page. ;-)
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Guess I'll post it...
The universally recognized power of the bicycle bell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_MphtzCOEc
The universally recognized power of the bicycle bell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_MphtzCOEc
The sound of a pump shotgun chambering a round
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It's probably best to warn them by bell or by voice, then wait to see what they do before making your move.
That's why I don't like MUPs.
That's why I don't like MUPs.
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I always Yell out "Bike Behind" from about 50 ft away and wait for them to move. Then I know roughly where they will not be- but not always. And if they don't hear me then I repeat it. And then if they still don't hear me- I ask them which side they want the tyre marks as I trackstand behind them.
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i try to slow down around people. it will be there when I get there. and people are suspect.
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Crossing the Purple People Bridge from Newport, KY to Cincy, they have a pretty wide lane on one side and a "pedestrian only" lane. Coming back one night, I said "Passing on you right!" three times to a guy who was BS'ing with his wife and would not move until I was right behind him. Sheesh! Car or walking, some people are just dumb.
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I sense a certain ignorance of facts in all the above answers. Those pedestrians who are not stone deaf have little wires coming out of their ears which preclude any possibility of hearing bells, voices, and shotgun blasts, to say nothing of the slide being racked.
Those approaching from the front seem to have a similar visual impairment.
Those approaching from the front seem to have a similar visual impairment.
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Something more like a command: "stop" or "keep right" would be easyer to understand in a split second.
A bike bell makes more sense to me than a voice. Peopel know what a bike bell is, and that bikes mowe fast.
The nutscases with music on BOTH ears you just ride up close behind them and blow the airhorn, totally stupid to mowe around in traffic like that.
I guess riding on the MUP you can not expect peopel to respond the way you want and you just need to go slow.