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Old 09-28-09, 01:01 PM   #26
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You can also contact the folks who run the Yelp site. Just tell them you had a legal obligation to report a likely theft to the police.
The review shouldn't hurt the shop much. Oh it might have some impact with users of the service who just check the average star rating, but otherwise all it does is make the shop unattractive to people who are planning on bringing in stolen property for service.

The other side is a shop that is honest in that respect is less apt to overcharge or charge for services not actually done.

I think I'd go with an honest shop.
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Here's a true story from a few years ago. ...
Best stolen bike story ever! Although the "don't steal bikes bro" video was pretty good too.

Anyway, in my book, OP's store would have earned extra business from me.
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She says she paid $1,000 for a seriously used-looking, 8-speed Sora equipped bike with mismatched parts that didn't work right? NOBODY'S THAT DUMB!
Yes they are. When you first got into bikes,did you instinctively know the diff between Sora and Ultegra? N00bs do n00b things all the time. And FYI,I've seen Sora road bikes at sporting goods stores selling for $1-1.2K,so I could totally see a newbie thinking Sora was quality.


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The customer gave my shop a terrible one star review on yelp, basically saying that we checked to see if their bike was stolen without their permission, called the police, and now they are out a thousand dollars and they will never come to our shop again. I feel bad for her, but it's really her fault for not checking out the bike before she bought it from somebody on craigslist.
I'd have felt bad for her too,until she decided to dump on your shop. Did she talk to the police? Make any effort to put them onto the person that sold her the bike?
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Yes they are. When you first got into bikes,did you instinctively know the diff between Sora and Ultegra? N00bs do n00b things all the time. And FYI,I've seen Sora road bikes at sporting goods stores selling for $1-1.2K,so I could totally see a newbie thinking Sora was quality.
Not buying it, ryder. You're comparing a brand new bike from a shop with one that has stickers all over it and, by the seller's admission, doesn't work. Nobody's that dumb.
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Nobody's that dumb.
I'm at home now -- Judge Judy finished up ten minutes ago, and Divorce Court is on now.

Oh yes, people ARE that dumb.
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I'm at home now -- Judge Judy finished up ten minutes ago, and Divorce Court is on now.

Oh yes, people ARE that dumb.
LOL

Sad, but true. I take the introduction of ECW on SyFy as proof of that.

To the OP: good job. Thanks.
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I once saw someone riding an Xmart full suspension bike where the rear shock had been replaced with a piece of wood. And I used to see a Giant hybrid locked up the street that had the fork backwards. After a month I left a note on the bike telling the owner it would handle better if they turned it around the right way,they never did. People are def that dumb.
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I think you did the right thing. This is another example of why people MUST report thier bikes stolen.

I want to give your store a five star rating on yelp. You should post the yelp link to your store on here so we can all rate your store.
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I like this idea. Although I have never shopped in your store, I can rate it for its honesty!
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here's the yelp review:

"If you buy a bike that doesn't have 'history'-- that is, from craigslist, and they suspect that it's stolen, the folks will call the police to check, without your permission. If the bike is reported as stolen property, you will lose your bike and your $. No warning, no signs on the door or anything. I understand that it's a moral obligation for the bike shop to turn the bike in, but it certainly doesn't make me feel good to lose a bike and nearly a grand to some bike thief. I will NOT be purchasing my next bike from them NOR will I be getting my bike fixed there-- or at their affiliate site... It's a shame. This unfortunately has totally ruined my weekend as I wait for the police to contact me..."
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here's the yelp review:

"If you buy a bike that doesn't have 'history'-- that is, from craigslist, and they suspect that it's stolen, the folks will call the police to check, without your permission. If the bike is reported as stolen property, you will lose your bike and your $. No warning, no signs on the door or anything. I understand that it's a moral obligation for the bike shop to turn the bike in, but it certainly doesn't make me feel good to lose a bike and nearly a grand to some bike thief. I will NOT be purchasing my next bike from them NOR will I be getting my bike fixed there-- or at their affiliate site... It's a shame. This unfortunately has totally ruined my weekend as I wait for the police to contact me..."
That's the terrible review?
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This thread is making me feel much better about the bike i just bought off craigslist 2 weeks ago without checking any history on it. I think I lucked out...

1. sellers e-mail was ***schoolcop@***.com
2. Had to get "Off duty" before he could call me... "duty" sounded official, and we exchanged numbers, so I had SOME contact info.
3. He gave me his business card when I met him... yup, officer Alan from Spring Police Dept.
4. Had typed up a "bill of sale". Nothing notarized or anything, just a sheet listing value, date, serial #, description, etc., and negating any repurcussions for injury from the bike and it had his signiture.

The last part I guess is what some of us should produce or ask for when buying/selling
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jeeses, man! don't go calling the cops on every craigslist bike with mismatched gruppos!

you effin tool.

if its a 10,000 custom carbon orbea tri bike with Di2 that has been reported stolen in the local bike press and photos distributed? a different matter altogther. or a person consistently showing up with fancy road bikes in tennis shoes and a methamphetamine twitch, asking "how much is this one worth?"

i suggest this shop person (is this the owner of a shop?), if they understand the internet and bikesales in an age of craigslist, should mind their own business and simply fix the bike.

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Good grief. The OP did the right thing. Does doing the right thing not matter any more?

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jeeses, man! don't go calling the cops on every craigslist bike with mismatched gruppos!

you effin tool.

if its a 10,000 custom carbon orbea tri bike with Di2 that has been reported stolen in the local bike press and photos distributed? a different matter altogther. or a person consistently showing up with fancy road bikes in tennis shoes and a methamphetamine twitch, asking "how much is this one worth?"

i suggest this shop person (is this the owner of a shop?), if they understand the internet and bikesales in an age of craigslist, should mind their own business and simply fix the bike.
WTF, seriously? The guy suspected the bike was stolen and he shouldn't check to see if it was reported? If it wasn't, no harm no foul, fix the bike and the customer doesn't even know he called the police. But since it was, good deed done.

I agree with one part of your post, and I'll quote: "you effin tool."
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I believe the OP did the right thing also. By having the bike on his property, he's in possession of stolen property. He's liable for this stuff as well. I also think Bekologist is a tool if he thinks that the only reason why something should be classified as stolen is when it's high dollar. This bike might have been the persons only form of transportation and now they can't get to work or whatever. To them it might be quite valuable. Because of people like you who look the other way is one of the reasons why our society is going down the toilet like it is.

Good job OP! If she is in such denial that she can't accept responsibility for buying a stolen bike and then blaming your shop for her being out of money then she's a fool. Nor should your shop "ask permission" to call the police about a suspected stolen bike. You did the right thing.
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+1. Don't let the woman get you down - she's understandably pissed at being sold a stolen bike, and who wouldn't be? Caveat emptor.

Our LBS refuses to sell used bikes for this reason. I don't know if he's ever reported a bike as possibly stolen - will have to ask him.
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+1. Don't let the woman get you down - she's understandably pissed at being sold a stolen bike, and who wouldn't be? Caveat emptor.

Our LBS refuses to sell used bikes for this reason. I don't know if he's ever reported a bike as possibly stolen - will have to ask him.
I think most bike shops are starting to do this. There is just too much legal risk to carry used bikes. In fact, in Austin, I only have heard of one bike shop that has used stuff.

I'm guessing that with the fact that bike theft has gone off the charts in Austin in the past year, there is just too much risk in this.
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Regarding used bikes, my usual shop won't sell them, and has given the explanation that they'd have to obtain a pawn shop license and deal with the associated headaches. I don't blame 'em, either.

They also can't sell energy bars and gels, either -- because they're "food", and they'd have to have a foodservice license. Do shops outside of DC need to do the same?
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You did the right thing.
Nobody should feel sorry for this woman who brought in the bike. She probably full well knew it was stolen. She ought to know better than to buy a stolen bike. Buying a stolen bike is as bad as the stealing itself.
If the thief can't sell the stolen bike, then he wouldn't steal it (sometimes). But the people who knowingly or without caring buy a stolen bike are as bad as the thief.
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Regarding used bikes, my usual shop won't sell them, and has given the explanation that they'd have to obtain a pawn shop license and deal with the associated headaches. I don't blame 'em, either.

They also can't sell energy bars and gels, either -- because they're "food", and they'd have to have a foodservice license. Do shops outside of DC need to do the same?
In NC no, not at my LBS. They sell both used bikes (yes they run the serial numbers first) and the gels and energy bars. I looked at their local sales license the last time I was there and they have a bike shop license and a general merchandise license that allows them to sell just about anything up to a certain point. In this area you get a general license based on your gross receipts and then have add ons for the various other things you want to sell.

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A bike shop employee with ethics?! I don't believe that one.
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But seriously, well done man. You just got some red light, running karma back!
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jeeses, man! don't go calling the cops on every craigslist bike with mismatched gruppos!

you effin tool.

if its a 10,000 custom carbon orbea tri bike with Di2 that has been reported stolen in the local bike press and photos distributed? a different matter altogther. or a person consistently showing up with fancy road bikes in tennis shoes and a methamphetamine twitch, asking "how much is this one worth?"

i suggest this shop person (is this the owner of a shop?), if they understand the internet and bikesales in an age of craigslist, should mind their own business and simply fix the bike.
I hope you're being sarcastic. If not, I can deduce from your coment that either you, 1) steal bikes, 2) profit from stolen bikes, 3) have never had a bike of yours stolen, or 4) You're a moron.

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Nor should your shop "ask permission" to call the police about a suspected stolen bike.
No, but it might be nice to get a heads-up. I mean, did she come in to pick up her bike and was told "so, you don't have a bike anymore," or what?
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If the customer's story was true, It must be aq major pain in the arse to lose a bike that way. However, if the shop had notified the customer what would she have done? Raced down and tried to claim the bike before th epolice do?
Like it or not, the customer was the one who was in posession of stolen property and that is her mistake.
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