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    Mrs. DataJunkie Luddite's Avatar
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    Be wary of panniers

    I've had two bad incidents with my MEC panniers. First time, one of the stupid long straps got tangled up in my rear derailleur...while I was riding. And it was night.

    Second incident was yesterday, I was about to leave when I realized my rear wheel wasn't turning. I thought the rear brake needed to be fiddled with, I fiddled, didn't make the wheel work. Then I noticed one of the straps I neglected to snap shut was twisted all the way around my rear wheel, behind the plastic ring. Also, the #%#$%#$% buckle was stuck in my spokes. I got out my Swiss Army Knife and cut the strap off (couldn't get it out otherwise) then i kicked the wall beside me, then I punched the wall.

    After much swearing, I finally got the strap out of the wheel, and removed the buckle without damaging my spokes. I was not amused.

    I'm probably going to take the panniers to MEC today, which I should have done months ago and tell them what happened. What if that strap had done that while I was riding?

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    Why is this MEC's problem because YOU left the straps danging?
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    Secure your pannier straps before riding. Problem solved.

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    First incident was not due to my negligence. Second one was.

    But, it could happen to anyone, you could be in a hurry and all it takes is forgetting once...the long straps are dangerous.

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    Which bags?

    Edit, is your sig supposed to read 80's Lyric item?
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    If the straps are too long, why didn't you just cut them shorter after your first incident?

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    I initially tied off the first offending strap, but then it got grease all over my pannier so I ended up cutting it off later. The one yesterday I had to cut off immediately to get it loose from the wheel.

    In my signature it's "tiem" which is an internet way of typing "time."

    Anyway, I took the panniers into MEC today. I had been using the first strap that got tangled in my derailleur wrong but the photo of the pannier on their website doesn't obviously show that strap. I only ever got a 30 second instruction on how to attach the pannier to my rear rack, not instructions in how all the straps work. The customer service person knew exactly how the straps should be used and showed me in detail what I was supposed to be doing. Turns out I also needed a longer J-hook which she provided.

    so they are sending the mangled pannier to get new straps put onto it, which I won't be charged for. I'm going to try to remove the grease stains with dish soap when I get the pannier back.

    Let this be a lesson to those who haven't used panniers before: make sure you REALLY know exactly how to use them so you don't risk destroying your derailleur or rear wheel or ???. They are a lot more complicated than ya think.

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    I've got the Axiom Lasalle panniers, and so far, after 6 years of use, I've never had any strap issues.

    I also have a set of small Nashbar panniers. They've got longish straps but I just tied them the first time I put the panniers on when I realized they had the potential of causing a problem.

    Whenever I put anything on my bicycle, I check to see if there is any chance of a part of it falling into my wheels.

    What straps on the pannier you were using caused the problems?

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    I agree with some of the other posters. your problems all sound like end user generated operational issues unrelated to the design and normal operation of the otherwise useful equiptment.



    I just took a quick look at the MEC website and I can't see how anything that is properly secured can be causing issues. I am sure if they are not full enough there is slack in some of the straps but most people would tuck that in somewhere after connecting everything.
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    I agree...

    user error.

    but in an age of self responsibility... he cannot be at fault...

    get a lawyer and sue em... think of the children!!!

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    I have similar panniers and am seriously thinking of cutting the straps off. What purpose do they actually serve, except coming undone and getting caught in the wheel?
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    In my signature it's "tiem" which is an internet way of typing "time."
    In other words, "sloppy proofing."
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    Well I did a search for the word "tiem" an came up with nothing. No such word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luddite View Post
    In my signature it's "tiem" which is an internet way of typing "time."
    No, it's an internet way of being confusing. It's also supposed to be amusing but it it isn't (after being repeated a thousand or so times, no joke is amusing or clever).

    Quote Originally Posted by al-wagner View Post
    Well I did a search for the word "tiem" an came up with nothing. No such word.
    It's a deliberate "typo" that that a total of 3 people on "teh interwebs" inexplicably find amusing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boudicca View Post
    I have similar panniers and am seriously thinking of cutting the straps off. What purpose do they actually serve, except coming undone and getting caught in the wheel?
    One thing they let you do is temporarily stuff more things under the lid. They also allow the pannier and contents to be tightened-down (so stuff doesn't move around) when they aren't full.
    Last edited by njkayaker; 09-27-09 at 11:06 AM.

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    I have some Ortlieb panniers and I managed to get the straps caught in my rear wheel and I almost got hurt because of it. But that was not the fault of the panniers. That was me being stupid and not making sure my straps were secured.

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    *rising theme music*

    Attack of the Killer Panniers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by eshvanu View Post
    *rising theme music*

    Attack of the Killer Panniers!
    And the sequel - Killer Panniers meet the Bungee Cords from Hell. All clods who don't have enough sense to tie their shoes are in danger!

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    Quote Originally Posted by al-wagner View Post
    Well I did a search for the word "tiem" an came up with nothing. No such word.
    Either your internet-fu is quite weak, or you're deliberately lying. A simple search turned up multiple occurrences, including several used the way the OP does (Off of lolcats, of course!)
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    It's cool to spell incorrectly? The world is a strange place.

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    Oh yeah, lolcats is definitely an authoritative site. *yawn*
    That which does not kill me has made a massive tactical blunder.
    Too often I would hear men boast of the miles covered that day, rarely of what they had seen. Louis L'Amour
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    In the end, why the #$@! do you care if someone wants to deliberately misspell a word in their sig?
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    I don't, but it's the Internet man, everything is important.

    Why do you care that anyone else cares?

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    teh straps might loose there grip = Internet speak.

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    That which does not kill me has made a massive tactical blunder.
    Too often I would hear men boast of the miles covered that day, rarely of what they had seen. Louis L'Amour
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