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forum*rider 08-01-04 01:11 PM

Yelling "on your left"
 
On a short ride today I was trying to pass a younger couple who were completely oblivious to the fact that I was sitting behind them yelling "on your left" and "Please move to the right", after about 10 minutes of this I just moved to the far left side and passed them. To make a long story short the couple caught up to me after a few stoplights and started lecturing me about how I should have waited longer until they saw me then passed them.

Im just wondering if I was right to pass them or should I have waited longer? Also is there some kind of small megaphone that you can clip onto your bike? Im sure that would come in handy.

PriO 08-01-04 02:09 PM

a whistle attached to ur neck will do

JohnnyTheFox 08-01-04 02:56 PM

Well cars overtake each other ok without shouting as driving in a car you have a mirror and should you being generally aware of whats going on. Maybe if when riding people took the odd look back every so often it would help.

Or a bell :)

ultra-g 08-01-04 02:58 PM

A good loud "Go Fu*ck Yourself You Inconsiderate Fu*cks!!!" would be better.

I had some a-hole scream "ON YOUR RIGHT" at me on a Friday evening in Central Park when there were absolutely no cars on the park drives and he had both the bike lane to the left and the other car lane to the right to pass me by.

I rode with him for a few seconds just staring at him, but not saying a word before he got nervous and took off.

roadfix 08-01-04 03:00 PM

My first thought was they didn't understand English, but obviously not..... They're probably in love....

55/Rad 08-01-04 03:23 PM

My favorite story aong these lines takes place in the loop around Hagg Lake Oregon. A buddy and I were were taking it easy after a climb and from the rear we hear a very obnoxious: "BIKES BACK!" (We were on a 3 lane wide road and not a car for miles) We moved over only to find 2 young guys in their 20's on identical Trek 2300's with Aero bars. We said hello and they grunted and we let them go...where they promptly settled in right in front of us. On the next hill I noticed they were climbing in the Aero bars and my buddy and I, both in our 40's, decided to push them. So we caught up on their wheel and announced "bikes back". They were not happy. We made small talk and then dropped them in a flash. The look on their faces as we started to pull away was priceless. Point is, you can be young and own a great bike but if you come off as an inexperienced jerk, a couple of old men are going to school you.

55/Rad

slopvehicle 08-01-04 03:31 PM

Oh man! I bet your workout was totally ruined.

Portis 08-01-04 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forum*rider
On a short ride today I was trying to pass a younger couple who were completely oblivious to the fact that I was sitting behind them yelling "on your left" and "Please move to the right", after about 10 minutes of this I just moved to the far left side and passed them. To make a long story short the couple caught up to me after a few stoplights and started lecturing me about how I should have waited longer until they saw me then passed them.

Im just wondering if I was right to pass them or should I have waited longer? Also is there some kind of small megaphone that you can clip onto your bike? Im sure that would come in handy.

http://www.mirrycle.com/incredibell%20XL.htm

I have one of these, it works pretty well. I had almost this same thing happen one day. I could go into detail as to what happened but suffice it to say, what you experienced was "the rut." Deer get into this when it is mating season and they get unreasonable. Human males are just basically always this way when they have any sort of altercation and they are with a female companion.

I have had WAY more trouble with "couples" on trails than any other group. I know longer stop and argue with people like that. I finally figured out that it is just wasting valuable riding time.

capsicum 08-01-04 03:58 PM

they used to have these little yellow battery powered handlebar mounted jobs when I was a kid, they had a switch to select PA(like a weak megaphone) or a choice of police, fire truck or ambulance sirens. Man those were fun:D. Try toys R us I think they came from there.

forum*rider 08-01-04 04:11 PM

I'll try bringing a whistle along with me next time I ride.


Btw 55/rad my road bike is older than I am :D

slopvehicle my workout wasn't ruined but I was(am) annoyed that they just sat there blocking the path and ignoring me completely. The least they could do is acknowledge that they know im back there and it's ok to pass. A simple wave would have done the trick.

Guest 08-01-04 04:49 PM

There's no law that says you have to wait for them to see you before you pass them. That's ridiculous. If they saw you, you wouldn't have to shout "on your left" because they were aware of your presence, right? The reason why you have to shout "on your left" is to let them know you're behind them and that you're going to pass. It's their obligation to skooch over far enough to give you the room to pass. If anything, they were in the wrong for not immediately moving over to give you the room to pass.

Get that Zounds Air horn and scare the hell outta them. Nothing like a big 'ole foghorn to make you jump out of your skin and get you to react immediately! :D

Koffee

ultra-g 08-01-04 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capsicum
they used to have these little yellow battery powered handlebar mounted jobs when I was a kid, they had a switch to select PA(like a weak megaphone) or a choice of police, fire truck or ambulance sirens. Man those were fun:D. Try toys R us I think they came from there.

I had one of those on my bike when I was about 8 years old, it was the most fun!

RobotSonic 08-01-04 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capsicum
they used to have these little yellow battery powered handlebar mounted jobs when I was a kid, they had a switch to select PA(like a weak megaphone) or a choice of police, fire truck or ambulance sirens. Man those were fun:D. Try toys R us I think they came from there.

i wanted one of those things so badly as a kid but they were always sold out of them...by the time they actually had them in stock i was too old....but i guess it wouldnt look weird for a 20yo with a kids megaphone/bell deal on his road bike:D

bikergrl 08-01-04 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Fixer
My first thought was they didn't understand English, but obviously not..... They're probably in love....

Not an excuse... Maybe you should have muttered very LOUDLY as you drew alongside "On your left means, I am passing on your left, and if you get in my way, I'm going to run you down." If you really wanted to be obnoxious, you could have then lollygag and proceeded to ride very SLOOOOOWLY once you're in front of them...

But seriously, anyone who gets on a bike should be taught basic etiquette....

Lil

Grampy™ 08-01-04 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 55/Rad
Point is, you can be young and own a great bike but if you come off as an inexperienced jerk, a couple of old men are going to school you.

55/Rad

Can I have an Amen, Brother?!?!

Oooops, to the original question..... You owe the riders you are over taking notice, once. If they can't hear because of a walkman, conversation, whatever....that is their problem. Scare the begeeses out of them. If they whine, tell them to pay attention.

Diggy18 08-01-04 09:03 PM

If there's not a lot of traffic and the rider(s) up front are holding a strainght line, then I don't even bother announcing I'm passing. I hate to bother the other rider, kind of.

But pedestrians are a bit of a different story, becuase they have the ability to move sideways very suddenly in a way that a bike can't. So, unless there's enough room to give a WIDE berth around a walker, then I always announce, and I like to get their attention. A crash could be painful to everyone involved.

DieselDan 08-01-04 09:09 PM

I gave up giving a warning. Only on rare occasions was it every heeded, and more times did it cause trouble.

I do like yelling "INCOMING" sometimes.

forum*rider 08-01-04 09:50 PM

Ok then, thanks for all the info. And now I know what to do incase this happens again, which im sure it will.

jfmckenna 08-01-04 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DieselDan
I gave up giving a warning. Only on rare occasions was it every heeded, and more times did it cause trouble.

I do like yelling "INCOMING" sometimes.

Me too. I don't yell the incoming thing ;) But I only use a 'bike' path partially on my commute which I ride fixt which is toatally a silent bike so I simply navigate around the riff raff even if there are dogs and children they will all get the message which is, "this path is NOT just for you but ocassionally some crazy mother f'er who glides acrooss here almost motionless in a glance" blah blah. The people do not understand...

Oak Park Biker 08-01-04 11:02 PM

I like "INCOMING" better than "on your left."

Raiyn 08-01-04 11:12 PM

Please don't yell "INCOMING" You eventually come across a combat vet who will dive off his bike possibly hurting himself in the process. That's an exceeding f'ed up thing to do to someone.

Flyingsquid 08-01-04 11:29 PM

I rarely ever give an "on your left" anymore unless I really feel like I have to. I usually slow down & they can normally hear that I'm there. I wish I had a dollar for every time that I have yelled "On Your Left" only to have them MOVE to the left. I then usually give them a "No, your OTHER Left".

iamlucky13 08-02-04 12:39 AM

I find the sound of a bell reasonable, but I prefer "on you *side*" since it tells me a little more.

Now I have to add a story... On my way home from work two weeks ago, I round the first corner and there is a very pretty looking young blonde woman ahead of me on a Rockhopper with slicks and clipless (I'm on 2.1 knobbies and platforms). I figured I'd stay back and be respectful, but It's clear pretty quick I'm ever so slightly gaining on her. Not wanting to be inappropriate by following a young woman in Lycra, I call the inside (empty parking spaces) and pass her on a slight uphill. She thanked me for calling out and gave me very pretty smile, and I continued my spinning. Apparently I hammer hills harder than her. After cresting the top of the rise, I glance back and she's right behind me, so I think "Oh crap, she's gonna think I'm just trying to be macho" (which is only partly true :D ) and I start pumping. After not quite a mile I realized I couldn't keep it against clipless and slicks, so I salvaged what was left of my dignity and pretended to have reached my turn. The only reason I had any ego left when I got home was because of her smiling and thanking me for calling my approach. Yet another tragic example of the young and foolish.

Stealthman_1 08-02-04 06:21 AM

I love these guys...
Squeaky Horns...
Myself I have a red squishy horn mounted on my aero bars, kinda takes the 'too serious' out of my roadie. :D

wabbit 08-02-04 10:51 AM

Here's a moron story. I was on a ride a few weeks ago along a bike path. At one point, I had something in my eye so I went off the path for a minute. WHen I was ready to get back on, I waited for people to pass. At this part of the path,there is sort of a juncture where the path forks. On the opposite side from where I was is a sort of rest area with benches. I waited for a couple of rollerbladers, a man and a woman, to pass by. SHe wobbled off to the other side, and he stopped just ahead of me. SO in order for me to get back on the path, I'd have to go AROUND him into the opposite lane. He was obviously unaware of that. I said, Excuse me a couple of times, and he didn't move, so I went around him on the right side, which was grass. As I passed him, he yelled "HEY! You're supposed to pass on the left! What country do you live in!" What a total idiot! I just yelled,"Oh, **** it raw!!" If you want people to pass you on the left you have to get out of the way, I can't go right through you, stupid!


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