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Old 11-01-09, 07:22 PM   #1
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Vintage bike pricing...

Is this way too high priced?
I don't really know about vintage bikes.
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http://syracuse.craigslist.org/bik/1447191941.html
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Old 11-01-09, 07:42 PM   #2
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Ask in the Classic & Vintage forum, they will know much better.
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Ask in the Classic & Vintage forum, they will know much better.
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A bit, not so much, providing that all that's stated in the ad. is correct. Cioccs aren't as show-offy as some others, that one is but they have a good rep. in Europe moreso than here, more well known, smaller builder. They've provided champs with with bikes.
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Just remember that a “classic” is only worth what you want to pay for it. It will still have old components that aren’t as nice as most of the new components you can get today. You aren’t that far off in price from some relatively good working new bikes with Bifters and better wheels. Would you be looking for 1984 components for a bike today? Cranks, Bottom Brackets, Chainrings and shifters have come a long way in 25 or 26 years. Check on E-bay and see what the parts sell for before you believe he can part it out for more. Most likely not. And the bike doesn’t sound like it is in mint condition. Just my opinion.
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Old 11-02-09, 08:30 AM   #6
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Love the fact the bike is leaning against a piece of crap. It almost looks like a junkyard or my yard for that matter.
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A new no-name frame of similar quality would be $1,000+ and the bike has a certain value strictly because of the Italian mystique. The components also have value to those who worship at the Campagnolo altar. Whether that makes the bike worth $850 depends on how much you want it, and what shape it is in. And I agree, the C&V valuation subforum would be the best place to ask.
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le'ehov, I don't assume that even though you've admitted that you "know" nothing about such bikes, you wouldn't know enough about bikes in general and are handy. That bike was photd'd just laying there with disregard could count for something, not everything. If the seller was trying to be smooth, he could've had it possitioned it to look good. It seems rideable which would help you should you decide to visit him.
I've been focusing on that brand for some thirty years; newer ones, those with post '87 coponents but never bought one. They're excellant bikes, searching the net under the name will bear that out. There's not one incongruent statement, part or other feature in that bike that I can detect. I know what year it is but choose to give myself wiggle room so I'll call it a mid-'80s. ALL the components I've spotted and the man's listed are TOP NOTCH. The frame was among the very best of it's time; it's SLX and has the chrome and was given other treatment by the builder and the person who selected the components that are consistant and worthy of such. All that's within the bike is neither to old or overly difficult to obtain should one need to.
Pinarellos, Cinellis, Colnagos, Merckx's and others may carry more weight in the used market and are more favored at large but then again they can cost double the price of that and aren't better. Some afformentioned brands actually do carry more weight, the Ciocc @ that weight (which is precise by the way) is lighter.
Ciocc and other brands; Faggin , Battaglin and just a few others are from the Veneto region of Italy, not anywhere near Milan, different region. Different building history, not exactly the same style in frame building, different folks and competition as well as snobbery exists in Italy too. I see it when I visit "home". All this just may account for some lack of cache that the brand carrys.
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