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    Well the title says it all. I have did some search for this subject but decided to post my question for the best fit. Please do not flame me for being cheap. Or tell me to get a used one. I have my needs and reasons.

    I have been going to Target and Wal*Mart and looked at their bikes. What my need is very simple. A bike that can be used a few times a year. Maybe go on a nearby bike trail. As an alternative for car for 1-2 mile trips, etc.

    I used to ride a $120 bike bought in Costco duing college, about 8 years ago before it got stolen. It serves me well and I figure a similar one would go for sub-$100 these days. Given that back-to-school days are around the corner. I might have a better selection.

    I am 5'10" but I am thinking of getting a 24" bike. As I think it would be smaller and lighter than a 26". And had a better chance to fit in a small car's trunk if I had its front wheel taken off. I've seen a Target one (PK7) going for $99. But I also saw the Wal*Mart's Next Power. Which seems to very much the same. And have anyone got any comment with this Honda?

    I'm really not sure if I need the rear suspension thing since it seems to be heavier than those without. But a lot of cheap bikes these days are either dual suspension or no suspension. I would prefer one with suspension. Quick release front wheel is usually not available for sub-$100 nor 24" wheels.

    Please do not suggest me to buy a used one.
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    Go to a pawn shop and get something there.

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    I thought this post would already be filled with responses by folks telling you how badly you need to spend more for a better bike.

    I say ride what you can afford.


    At the sake of taking some flak, I would say that for $100 you should look at some of today's Schwinns at Target. My neighbor kid has one and he loves it. He is over at my house almost every day talking bikes and having me looking his bike over.

    For the X-mart $100-"ish" bikes, the Schwinns seems better made than the run of the mill Pacific, Vertica, or other x-mart bikes.

    Of course, Schwinn is no longer the Schwinn of yesteryear as it has changed ownership several times. Also, all the x-mart bikes are made in China, but each company has different specifications and quality controls.

    Be sure to give the bike a good look-over to make sure nothing is visibly wrong. In most cases, your biggest risk will be the minimum wage assembler at the X-mart. Have a bike-smart friend look the bike over after you buy it and again after you ride it for 100 miles or so.

    REF suspension: It sounds like you are a light-use rider. For this reason, I would not recommend rear suspension which was designed for downhill mt-bike racers. This design made it's way to the market via fashion demand more than functional merit. In fact, you do not need front suspension either. The cheaper bikes have heavy spring-equipped shocks that add much unnecessary weight to the bike. You don't need to be pushing all that weight around all the time if you seldom, if ever, need the shocks.

    Cheers. Ride and have fun!
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    $150 is a tight budget, but when I was younger I had a bike that you are looking for from Wally World (Wal Mart) it was more of a mountain bike, but when I wanted to take it on the road it got where I wanted to go and then some. Go to some auctions, you can find some really good bikes for cheap, or like said before go to a pawn shop, yard sales, etc. Believe it or not I have found some great looking bikes at yard sales, there are some great, but cheap bikes out there. If all of these fail, I'd try increasing your budget a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiyn
    Go to a pawn shop and get something there.
    Don't think they carry new ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by target
    Don't think they carry new ones.
    No but an old quality bike is 100% better than a new piece of crap.

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    mike, I did checked out the front suspension schwinns you mentioned and I agree that it is better than the PK7 dual suspension. Quick release and lighter weight too.

    But the schwinn doesn't seems to come in 26" wheels, unless I go for a girl's bike. Size means quite a bit to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiyn
    No but an old quality bike is 100% better than a new piece of crap.
    Yes, if I don't ended up getting a dead beat that is. With a new one, at least I can return it. Plus I don't have to worry about getting its tires and tubes replaced rightaway. Folks, I can go on and on. But I really hope you guys can stop suggesting used ones.

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    If you want a sub-$100 bike, then go to walmart and buy the most expensive bike that is less than $100. If you have a choice between a bike with suspension and one without for about the same price, get the one without. The simpler the bike design, the better the parts are likely to be at a given price.

    Get a 26 inch wheel bike. A 24 inch wheel will be way to small for you. You may have trouble finding a 26 inch wheel bike that fits since most of the cheap bikes are sold for kids.

    If you could go up to $250 you could look at something like a Dahon Boardwalk 6 folding bike. That would easily fit in your trunk, on a bus, train, or in a suitcase to be checked as airplane luggage. Just a thought.

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    supcom, the problem is more expensive bikes usually comes with suspensions. Only the cheapest models comes without. And even I can tell they are no good.

    I seems to remember I was riding a 24" back in college. And I tried a 24" and it seems fine to me, I just have to adjust the seat higher. I also tried a 26" and it seems too bulky (especially the handle) and hard to manipulate for me. But of course, the 26" one is a cheap one too.

    And hey, if the street punks can ride a 20". I think a 24" is fine for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by target
    Yes, if I don't ended up getting a dead beat that is. With a new one, at least I can return it. Plus I don't have to worry about getting its tires and tubes replaced rightaway. Folks, I can go on and on. But I really hope you guys can stop suggesting used ones.
    Yeah that's it return it....nevermind actually learning how to do simple repairs. What are you going to do when something goes wrong with the Wally World bike after thirty days? Chuck it in a dumpster?

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    Even based on the posting I saw here, a Wal-Mart bike is not that fragile. If it really failed beyond my ability to repair, I would have no regret throwing it away and getting a new one. Based on my experience with the Costco bike I had in college, I say the chance of a serious failure is remote.

    As I said, I have my needs and reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by target
    Even based on the posting I saw here, a Wal-Mart bike is not that fragile. If it really failed beyond my ability to repair, I would have no regret throwing it away and getting a new one. Based on my experience with the Costco bike I had in college, I say the chance of a serious failure is remote.

    As I said, I have my needs and reasons.
    Obviously you're beyond reasoning with so I won't bother with you any further.

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    Try the walmart 12 inch Radio Flyer tricycle. $39! cheaper than a bicycle and easier to balance on! Fits in the trunk and never gets a flat (solid tires).

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    Quote Originally Posted by qmsdc15
    Try the walmart 12 inch Radio Flyer tricycle. $39! cheaper than a bicycle and easier to balance on! Fits in the trunk and never gets a flat (solid tires).
    I bow to your superior advice in the matter

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    amusing thread.....
    a quick time out for some cheese and wine and I'll be back for some more...
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    Quote Originally Posted by qmsdc15
    Try the walmart 12 inch Radio Flyer tricycle. $39! cheaper than a bicycle and easier to balance on! Fits in the trunk and never gets a flat (solid tires).
    Why do you guys have to be so mean? I am just asking for help and you guys just have no better things to do than flaming a new member? If you have no help to provide, can't you just ignore this thread? Is that so difficult to do?

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    I don't think people are being mean, it just sounds like you have your fingers in your ears and are going 'la la la la la' when people offer you advice you don't want to hear.....
    A bike for $100 is not going to be great in any respect so why not just get one you like the colour of? Suspension at this price is going to be fairly useless, and the likelihood is that so are most of the gear components.
    I thought a mail order bike for this sort of money seemed like a great deal for a friend, but it has meant endless adjustment of the cheapo components and very little riding pleasure.
    You made the comment that if a major fault occurred you would throw the bike - well if the $100 means so little to you in the first place why not spend more to get something better? You suggest you have your reasons for wanting cheap -what are they?
    A bike with 24" wheels is going to be quite small for someone of your height; you might be OK in terms of pedalling if you fit a long seat tube, but the rest of the geometry will surely be wrong.

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    moet, if you read my posts, I have actually stated my reasons. I need a sub-$100 because I only need a bike for occational use and don't need anything fancy. I need a new bike because a used one won't let me return if things turn sour. I need a new bike because I can't tell a used gem from deadbeat. I need a 24" bike because I need a smaller one that would fit in my trunk.

    And although $100 is not a lot, I wouldn't expect it have a major fault based on my past experience. And even if it does, and it is not caused by me, I can return it within a month or get it repaired under warranty since it was bought new. If the bike last for a year, it would paid for itself.

    I didn't put my fingers in my ears and ignore all the advices. It is just that the advices does not fit my needs. And in some case, ignored my needs.

    There can be bikes in the $500 range, there can be bikes in $100-$500 range. And there are bikes in the $100 range too. So I want the best new bike in the $100 range. And all I want is the advice on choosing one.

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    Check your private messages, I left you one. Just send me some feedback, if you don't like the idea it's not a problem.

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    I read your posts, that's why I replied. You may well feel you need a new bike because it can be returned/you don't know what a good used one looks like, but the 'only using it occasionally' argument for cheapness doesn't fit with your willingness to dump the bike if it goes wrong. Hmmm?
    In my experience with all levels of bikes I have just found that the cheaper ones, whilst looking appealing at the outset, usually end up being a pain - the componentry probably break or give you cause to return the bike to the retailer, but the ride is often unpleasant and the gears never ever seem to run smoothly; its just the sort of thing that can really put you off cycling.
    Are you thinking of something like this; http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...A110922%3A5302

    or http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...&xsell=1647016

    I must admit I can't see how they can even make the things for this money. I hope you find something that works.

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    The best advice I can give you is to try going to a LBS and talk about used bikes. I know you want a new one, but if you get a used one through a LBS there is a much slimmer chance of it having problems. At my LBS they had some older model Trek comfort bikes that were just a shade over $200 I believe. They were new. Try asking them if they are looking to get rid of some older models. You may find a good deal there. You may also try some bigger sports retailers like around here we have Scheel's All-sport. Massive outdoor sport shops usually have some deals. You may end up going with something from a store like Wal-Mart or Target, but if you open lines of communication with a LBS they may be able to guide you well. Just give it a shot. It can't hurt to go around and gather opinions. They may be able to guide you on some of those bikes from retailers. They can give you the good and bad points of each, and try to hook you up with something that will fit your needs.

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    Hmmmm.....on the other hand, I know this guy who's been commuting 5 miles daily on this piece of shet $75 K-Mart mountain bike, kickstand and front suspension. Basically that was all he could afford at the time according to him so he can commute to his minimum wage job. I was curious to how the bike was holding up. Not too bad......all it needed was a little tweeking of the brake cables.
    As far as choosing one, most any $100 bike will be similar in quality and durability......they probably all come from this one humongous plant in China.
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    get one from costco under $100 and without suspension. They should have one under $100 with aluminum frame, if not it is cromoly. No need for suspension, specially just riding occasionally.

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    sigh... another needless flamewar..




    well, you don't make it easy on us, target.. i know you said don't tell you to buy a used one, but i am curious as to why you are so opposed to that idea?




    here's what i did, and it worked considerably well for me. i bought a used fuji "palisade" from someone who responded to an ad i put out in my local college (umich) classifieds. i dunno anything about it, or what caliber it was, and i never could pull up any decent specs about the "palisade" model. (no, my bike is NOT the palisade that is listed in the "comfort" section of fujibikes.com). anyhow, it was in pretty terrible condition, and i ended up resorting to fixed gear. i took everything off, replaced the chain and put in a surly 19tooth cog w/ old bottom bracket ring. i also sanded everything down and threw on a few coats of paint, then completely (and i mean completely) wrapped all the tubes in electrical tape. i got the biek for 50.00 even, plus 38 for the cog, and 14 for the chain. later on, i cut the road bars into cowhorns to perfect the "fixie" look.


    this is by no means another fixed gear rant, or anything of that nature. it's more just a testimonial of what i did. you can choose to leave the existing brakes on. you can leave the existing freewheel in and just convert it to single speed.

    i ride this bike every day for my commute, which tends to vary between 0 and 20 miles/day. it suits me extremely well for my needs and my budget. you mentioned that your needs are a vehicle to be used several times in a year, and for 1-2 mile commutes. it would appear that a used bike (with some minimal work) may exactly be what you need.




    on a side note, two days ago i picked up a road frame identical to the fuji i converted (takari? takara?) on the side of the road. it was laying against a cigarette disposal with a tag from the police marking it as "abandoned" and subject to impoundment. i'll have it up and running as a singlespeed in no time. it CAN be done on the cheap, if you'll open your mind a little.

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