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Old 08-05-04, 01:36 AM   #1
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At work. looking over the fence during the course of a day, makes me feel like I am in prison..Like a caged animal that can't join his herd. My shifts are 12.5 hours so riding every day is impossible...I feel envious of so many who have the opportunity to ride every day..
Sometime soon in life, hope can find a new situation...Where I daily can commute to work..Have a reasonable distance to work so such is possible...Diminish the need for car travel. make a car needed only when absolutely necessary. Won't feel traped by the car culture.
Maybe a new job, live closer to work.
.Maybe even take a bike course, where I can commute to work at a bike shop... Live, eat, and breathe bikes instead of being inside the fence looking out at people all day, doing their thing on their bikes. Working normal hours and connecting to bikes and whatever that makes you happy instead of feeling in prison. Riding daily if you so choose.
So how would others change your lives to live the life you want and not feel trapped. . Think one can go onto something different and live bikes all day.
Anyone else look over the fence watch a group of cyclist pass you by and feel cheated knowing you can't join them for the next 4 days. Anyone so taken by your obsessions, you want a change to something simplier and live, eat and breathe bikes all day..
I am so accused by friends and family alike...Whenever off and free, biking is my life. So why not find a way to make it so. Thank god, so far my wife tolerates her bike widow status. If could incorporate bikes into your work life, maybe I would have more free time when I get home.
Think later on in life, when it becomes time to move on from your old career, somehow bikes can become your new career.
Anyone else out there, spent so much time doing the same old thing, something new related to your obsession seems like a dream..

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Old 08-05-04, 02:40 AM   #2
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You know, in the past I've had thoughts about this, but I'm not so sure the reality of the change is quite how we perceive it. When I returned from my first bike tour in 2000, I remember a family member suggesting that I should think about starting up a guided bike tour business in the New England region of northern New South Wales (which is really pleasant riding, and should be visited at any stage possible).

However, when I give thought to being such a tour guide, and having spoken to people who have actually done it, the reality is quite different. For one thing, it sucks a lot of the freedom out of what you do, because you can't just leave a group of people to do your own thing. And you still have to put up with complaints from people who didn't read the brochure properly and aren't prepared for that hill you're about to tackle. I could go on and on.

Work in a bikeshop? It's a dream job for some, others lose their enthusiasm for riding to such an extent that they simply don't anymore. I spoke to a guy in Hobart who'd just gone through that. He has the best riding in Australia right on his doorstep, but has no desire to ride because he's surrounded by bikes all day. It's something that would become "just another job" if you let it, and probably would after a while in most cases.

So I just continue to do an ordinary job that I know I have the skills to perform, and I continue to let cycling be my outlet. I may decide on a life change in the future, or I may just move to somewhere the riding's better (I almost did after I came back from Tasmania). If I ever get really sick of it I can take a few months off, or even a couple of years if need be. However, I'd hate for the activity I enjoy most in the world to become "just another job".
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The bike shop personnel I know are pretty happy...Great advocates for gear they like..But, they have to report to work at 10 am..Time to ride before work..And most ride to work..What could be better. ON Sunday's the shop has either no mechanic or closed. Part time for a retired guy who wants to work part time would be great..Bet, I could really sell a bike.
Operator..Who do you agree with ..Chris? Like the idea of living your hobbies.
Anyone see Adventure Cycling has training for cycle tour leaders to be used in future group rides.
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A few years ago the company I worked for closed its doors and I found myself unemployed. My wife and I took the opportunity to travel around (Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, New Zealand, and South Korea). I had a lot of time to think about what I wanted to do when I started working again. I always thought combining work and my favorite hobbies (climbing and biking) would be great. I talked to guides, ex-mechanics, and thought about the situation. I came to the conclusion that I'd be better off getting back into IT, making a lot of money, having lots of free time and flexibility, and keeping my hobbies separate from work. 2 years later, I think I made the right decision.

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I work in IT, and as a kid at 15 I knew what I wanted to do for a living: Work in IT. No real regrets, I love my work and have no business doing much anything else. Sure, working in a shop would be fun... for a while. But after being a computer hobbyist for a long time and then working on peoples computers day in and day out, and then building websites and working on servers all day, and answering peoples dumb questions.... etc... the last thing I want to do is go home and play games on a computer. My laptop rarely sees any use!

So what do I do instead? Work on my bike or go for a ride! Or read BF.net

Do what you're good at for a living. Do what you LOVE for a hobby.

Maybe you just need a new job?
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Old 08-06-04, 01:43 AM   #7
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Yeah..Kind of bumbed last couple days...Been doing my job for over 20 years..Sometimes change seems sorely needed...Well, my shift work..I give up 26 weeks a year...To weekend duty..
Well, got word..My employer expects us to be on call an additional 8 weekends...One's I do not work...I must be able to be at work within 90 minutes...
I give up 26 weeks already..that will make 34 or 65 % of all weekends...The kicker, weekends consist of Friday through Sunday...how far can you get on your bike in 90 minutes, be home and clean up and drive to work within 90 minutes.....So no biking at all during those 8 weekends. really, no nothing..
I could use a low key job living my hobby.. Each shop employee at the local bike shop , I know of...They are working on bike events such as a 3 century endurance event.. I don't have time for such events. They all look pretty conditioned to me...
Just planning for a hopeful early retirement some years from now...
As one cyclists friend who has toured much of the world...Just quit your job...Give your retirement to your wife, put a fishing pole on your bike and head as far south as you desire. His suggestion..Said such a decision is easy.
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Yeah..Kind of bumbed last couple days...Been doing my job for over 20 years..Sometimes change seems sorely needed...Well, my shift work..I give up 26 weeks a year...To weekend duty..
Well, got word..My employer expects us to be on call an additional 8 weekends...One's I do not work...I must be able to be at work within 90 minutes...
I give up 26 weeks already..that will make 34 or 65 % of all weekends...The kicker, weekends consist of Friday through Sunday...how far can you get on your bike in 90 minutes, be home and clean up and drive to work within 90 minutes.....So no biking at all during those 8 weekends. really, no nothing..
I could use a low key job living my hobby.. Each shop employee at the local bike shop , I know of...They are working on bike events such as a 3 century endurance event.. I don't have time for such events. They all look pretty conditioned to me...
Just planning for a hopeful early retirement some years from now...
As one cyclists friend who has toured much of the world...Just quit your job...Give your retirement to your wife, put a fishing pole on your bike and head as far south as you desire. His suggestion..Said such a decision is easy.


It sounds to me like you need a better job. I'd rather take a small pay cut, and be happier... than put up with that crap!

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Cyclez i feel ya, im self employed i own a Air Cond co.there have been several times i pass up jobs i could easily make 500 bucks on in a hour or 2 but the ride is just more important. can't put a price on a good trainin ride. i also use to work weekends at double the price gave that up to ride more, im not gonna be a slave to work anymore
ill be a slave to the bike!
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This is an interesting thread. I've been working for the same company for 11 years. The job is safe, pays well, I've had the same manager for 8 years and we get along excellent, work hours are flexible. In short, it's a "dream job". My family (wife, two kids)live in a decent house 7 miles from work. Cost of living here is quite low, you get a lot of housing for the money.

Problem is, I'm bored to death. Burned out. Fed up with the Houston climate, pollution and living in car centric suburban hell. I'd wanted to move somewhere else for a while now, and so has my wife. We want to move somewhere up north (Oregon/Washington/Idaho/Montana) with better access to the outdoors, more bike friendly, cleaner air, real seasons (snow!)....

This dilemma is keeping me awake at nights. What to do, what to do.....


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I can relate - Kind of.... I'm lucky to be able to commute to the office daily (30 Miles RT) and usually do a couple hours after work as well. I no longer own a car. I'm my own boss, so I can decide to do extra in the AM or leave early to go riding & leave the minions in charge. My paychecks are big enough to afford basically any ride that I want. I have no one to answer to apart from a very understanding GF who would never question my use of time. Ironically, the very first night we met several years ago I warned her that I was amazingly Self-Centered & would forever remain a Manchild. She chose to stick around & God Bless Her for it. I am often referred to as a Spoiled Brat & am likely guilty as charged.

Sounds almost idyllic the way that I describe it. OK - Let's fast forward about 6 Months to the Blizzards of January here in the "Heartland" of the US of A. Suddenly I'm just a Sad-Sack without a car having to beg rides off the GF & trying desperately to find the motivation to get on the trainer. The holidays come & go and I start giving myself the inevitable "I swore I wasn't going to gain weight this Winter" speech. Spring comes & the cycle starts over again.

My dilemma has always been that I would LOVE, LOVE, LOVE to get the hell out of this frozen wasteland & move somewhere warmer. I definitely feel caged for several months out of the year. The biggest problem is this business that I have created for myself. The same business that feeds my cycling addiction is the same one that keeps me in the cage. My business is very localized, so it would be basically impossible to move somewhere else & maintain my lifestyle.

Oh yeah, I don't think that working in the bike shop is a good idea. My friends that work in bike shops (long-term) seem to have little motivation to ride. That whole "familiarity breeds contempt" thing.
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I am talking about like 5 years hence...A part time job..Will have a retirement...Don't need to work full time...
Don't know why I would not enjoy working in a bike shop...Hang out there so much it is like a social club, some feel...All the sales people at the shop ride in clubs and are really fit...Take the right bike maintenance course, and it would seem a person would have some value...Some shops I have used sponsor Saturday rides amongst their clientele...Could be a strong incentive to bring customers to the store..
Naw, don't agree.. Could never get tired of bikes...Could not be as bad as the hours I will soon have to keep...Work all week..Then on call all weekend..Totally unacceptable...
We have invested, hopefully made all the plans we need to retire significantly earlier than most... I even think about taking the leadership course offered by Adventure Cycling...Lead tours somewhere...Really get fit...
A friend came back from crossing the US on bike...Wish I had gone...Would not know him...What a wonder 6 weeks will do away from the refrigerator..
The future can get better...I have enjoyed my life's work..It is just now, they are asking too much. Can you imagine how I will feel when see cyclists pass me by at the plant all week..Then stuck at home...Look out the picture window and see the same thing on weekend..
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Sounds almost idyllic the way that I describe it. OK - Let's fast forward about 6 Months to the Blizzards of January here in the "Heartland" of the US of A. Suddenly I'm just a Sad-Sack without a car having to beg rides off the GF & trying desperately to find the motivation to get on the trainer. The holidays come & go and I start giving myself the inevitable "I swore I wasn't going to gain weight this Winter" speech. Spring comes & the cycle starts over again.
Man, just do the winter ride. There's lots of us out here that do it. Head down to the Hub and get yourself a beater fixie, learn how to ride it before the snow hits, then break it out when winter comes. Might take a little longer, but check the winter cycling board for tips.

There were two days I didn't ride last winter (it's 3.75m each way, not 30, but I'd do 30 if they move the plant). 1 was a broken stem from using a hand pump. The other was my bike getting stolen, and then I rode a bus home, then to goatmeal's then borrowed a bike and found mine on the way home.

I dunno - it seems easier out here in the winter sometimes - the cars at least know to move slower. I usually keep pace with them, instead of doing the leapfrog thing at traffic lights.

Oh, and face protection is a must jan/feb....
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For a moment I thought we'd take this thread down the path of pursuing the said "Pod." I experience all sorts of emotions when I see a pod pass by, I get judgemental if they are all were their colors, if they are a bunch of guys out riding I am envious, as I ride alone a lot, due to my schedule, but I do get out and ride, I love riding.
I heard a really cool quote the other day in an advertisment: "Find a sport your good at and dominate." That's pretty much been the way I've taken to cycling. I commute, but I compete with my last time with other riders out on the road. I don't take a comfortable pace, i like to push it, so that when the pod does come along I am ready to ride with them, and maybe be invited to ride with them in the future.
Seeing how we went down the "job" path...
For some reason I don't see work as my life, it is more my past time, something I have to do so that I can do the other things in my life, whether it is ride, camp, or sit and watch tapes of the Tour. I've always been able to find Work. The jobs I've had aren't close to being something that I really think are my career. I've tended to be a "Jack of all trades, a master of none." It would be nice to get an arrangement to get paid to ride, but even Lance says he'd ride even if he didn't get paid. I know what he's talking about.
I guess that is what is cool about commuting, I can fit a ride in twice a day, 23 miles one way. 3 hours of my day or more are spent on a bike, and it's a great time.
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I guess when I see a pod pass by , showing their 'colors' I get judgemental, in that they are a group; live a normal life and have time to ride as a group and perfect their sport..
Nothing wrong with belonging to a like minded group and giving a show of unity for their efforts at getting better at their endeavor.
Nurses wear a nurses cap, a cycling club wears the same jersey.. Just would be nice to be able to dedicate the time needed to excel at what you want.
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