This past year started riding on my Specialized Roubaix - fitted was the Toupe saddle - it crushed my balls, hurt my butt etc. After 2 months I decided to go for something else. In came Velo Pronto after a week I had to ditch it - same pain if not worse. Then the Terry Flyte carbon cushy ride however it felt not good: crushed groin - Then I got real serious bought me an SMP saddle and for months I could get around but- still not completely pain free. Switched my seat tube and realized that with another seat post each saddle should have been in a slightly different position... I thought what the heck, I just start over with the Toupe saddle.. and guess what - it's great! Just wanted to say that you need patience and keep trying. It helped me in the end.