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    Sorry to be a pain

    Hello everyone. I've been considering getting another bike for a while. I can't get on with the bike I have. It's only a cheap one but the problem is I can't afford a high quality bike(unless I go secondhand). I'm sorry, you must get loads of people asking the same question but I'm just wondering if anybody could suggest bikes to look for seconhdhand wise. I bought a cheap new bike and to be honest it's been a disaster so I am probably going to go for quality secondhand.

    I use my bike to get to work, to get around the city, and to go on bike rides with half a mind on fitness and half a mind on leisure/fun. I rarely, if ever, go off road, occasionally a mild dirt track or something of that ilk. I don't drive so I also use it to carry stuff such as shopping or anything else I happen to have with me at the time. So that pretty much sums up what I use it for.

    As far as the bike is concerned, I'm 6'3 and 17 stone so it needs to be something that can handle that(and shopping etc on top of that). However, I would quite like the bike to be reasonably lightweight as I do have to carry it up stairs quite regulary. Comfort, low maintenence, and reliability are more important than speed to me.

    I was looking at Dutch bikes on the internet. I like their classic style and they look like the sort of thing I would be after but I wonder how heavy they are.

    As I say sorry to ask this question that I'm sure you lot have been asked a gazillion times but if anybody does have any suggestions of what to look out for in the classifieds etc they would be most welcome

    Chris

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    Welcome Chris to Bike Forums.
    Where do you live?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10 Wheels View Post
    Welcome Chris to Bike Forums.
    Where do you live?
    Thanks Ten Wheels. I live in the UK. In Norfolk to be precise.

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    You might keep and eye out here:


    http://geo.craigslist.org/iso/gb
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    Quote Originally Posted by NFN View Post
    I'm just wondering if anybody could suggest bikes to look for seconhdhand wise.
    What ends up for sale second hand is so random that, beyond general advice, this information isn't going to be of much use.

    As general advice, look for one of the major brands sold at a local bicycle shop (LBS). Also, look at ones that aren't too old (not older than about 5-6 years).

    Note that there are some rather good bicycles in the <$400 range. If you have a budget, you should mention that too.

    Quote Originally Posted by NFN View Post
    I bought a cheap new bike and to be honest it's been a disaster so I am probably going to go for quality secondhand.
    You should indicate what you have and what problems you are having with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by NFN View Post
    I use my bike to get to work, to get around the city, and to go on bike rides with half a mind on fitness and half a mind on leisure/fun. I rarely, if ever, go off road, occasionally a mild dirt track or something of that ilk. I don't drive so I also use it to carry stuff such as shopping or anything else I happen to have with me at the time. So that pretty much sums up what I use it for.
    What kind of distances? It looks like a hybrid (you probably don't need front suspension), a cyclocross, or touring bike would work for you. Something that will allow wider tires and fenders would give you more flexibility. Check out some of the manufacterer web sites (trekbikes.com) to narrow down the type of bike you prefer.

    Quote Originally Posted by NFN View Post
    Comfort, low maintenence, and reliability are more important than speed to me.
    Any bicycle of reasonable quality and condition is reliable and doesn't require a lot of maintainence (if it is treated properly). You might need to define what "comfort" means (wider tires will do a lot for that).

    Quote Originally Posted by NFN View Post
    I was looking at Dutch bikes on the internet. I like their classic style and they look like the sort of thing I would be after but I wonder how heavy they are.
    Expensive, heavy, hard to find used. If you have hills (or want to be able to do hills), they may not have a sufficient gear range.
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    What is your budget ? There are a lot of inexpensive bikes out there if you look. I am not sure if you can get Kona bikes in the UK, but I found a couple that may intrest you. They are both cromoly steel, Worldbike is a 26 in internal geared 3 speed and the Smoke is a 700 cc 8 speed. Just a suggestion. They are both a little over $400 US. The one problem I see is the short seat stays for panniers. As far as racks they don't mention...but there are ways to attach a rack without mounts. Like I said just a suggestion.
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    So, big bike frame, with good wheels (17 stone is 238 lbs.)

    When looking at used bikes, look at the quality of the brakes and gears, you can always upgrade them of course, but if the bike started out with reasonable quality components, it's an indication that it was a fair bike when sold. The better quality the bike is/was, the less adjusting/maintaining it will need. You'll still need to work on it, or pay someone else to work on it, but minor adjustments will be less.

    Good quality is something you will learn to recognize with more exposure to the stuff, shiny does not mean good. Look for solid, well shielded bearings and pivots, brake components that bend in the breeze, are reserved for the very low end, or extreme lightweight racers, neither of which you should be interested in. Consider that you'll probably want some means of mounting full mudguards and rack(s).

    Get one that fits you, not easy at you height/size. Any good boot sales around? ( flea markets ) A big frame older Raleigh would be nice, but you'll lose out out on modern shifters and the like. Stay away from suspension, you don't need it, it adds weight and complexity for next to no gain for what you need. Better to get a road frame that can take 35mm plus tires, and run them at about 60 PSI.

    If going older, stay away from steel or chrome rims, they suck, too heavy, and braking is crap.

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    Try some pawn shops, especially in college towns.

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    At 17 stone you might want to ask for advice in the Clydesdale section as well. They'll have some practical advice for someone of your size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas View Post
    At 17 stone you might want to ask for advice in the Clydesdale section as well. They'll have some practical advice for someone of your size.
    Good idea! But 17 stone doesn't preclude a good hybrid from your list. They are guaranteed for up to 300 pounds by Trek - likely others. But do try the Clydesdale forum for the best answers. Nice folks!
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    Thanks for all your advice. I was not familiar with the term 'clydesdale' so had to look it up but will ask on there soon. Coldfeet, there is a pretty good boot sale relatively local to me. Not sure if they have it in the winter but will find out. If I could find an older Raleigh that would be just the ticket. Iforgotmename, I saw a Kona Jake for sale in my local bike shop and that looked brilliant but I gather a Cyclocross bike isn't really what I need. I was very tempted though as it was on offer and a tasty looking beast at that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NFN View Post
    Iforgotmename, I saw a Kona Jake for sale in my local bike shop and that looked brilliant but I gather a Cyclocross bike isn't really what I need. I was very tempted though as it was on offer and a tasty looking beast at that!
    The Jake would work fine for you.

    It gives you the option to run wider tires and fenders and racks and you can use it for all sorts of riding (including longer rides). It would a bike that you would not need to replace if you wanted to get more into cycling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
    The Jake would work fine for you.

    It gives you the option to run wider tires and fenders and racks and you can use it for all sorts of riding (including longer rides). It would a bike that you would not need to replace if you wanted to get more into cycling.
    I might go back and see if it's still there sometime in the next few days

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    Quote Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
    The Jake would work fine for you.

    It gives you the option to run wider tires and fenders and racks and you can use it for all sorts of riding (including longer rides). It would a bike that you would not need to replace if you wanted to get more into cycling.
    +1 The Jake is a nice all around bike. Many people use cyclocross bikes as a do all bike. Good luck.

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