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Old 02-01-10, 07:02 PM   #1
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eff gatorskins

First flat at 75 miles. So far, my el cheapo $10 Kenda tires have a better miles:flats ratio. Plus, the gators are HELL to get on and off.
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I love me some Gatorskins. 1500 miles, with no flats that were actually tire related.
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Turns out it was a pinch flat. But these things are such a ***** to get on and off, and I'm sick right now and don't have a whole lot of strength, I'm getting ready to have the LBS do it for me.

Would doing a crappy job of putting the tube/tire on be a contributing factor to pinch flats? Cause, given how hard it was for me to do I may well have done a poor job of it.
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Low tire pressure is the cause of pinch flats. The easiest tires I have had to install were Panaracer Pasela TG foldable. I didnt have a problem with Gatorskins - make sure the rest of the bead is down into the centre of the rim and maybe lube the rim with soap to get the tire on.
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going flat free is no fun unless you remember how crummy flats are. consider this a gift
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First flat at 75 miles. So far, my el cheapo $10 Kenda tires have a better miles:flats ratio. Plus, the gators are HELL to get on and off.


QFT. I had a similar experience.
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Yeah, b*tch to get on/off. REAL B*TCH.

I was using specialized up-to-28mm inner tubes (700x23mm wheels), but have recently changed to conti 19-25mm inner tubes which are a lot narrower. This makes installation quite a bit easier.

What made you move away from Kenda?
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I've heard some people say Gatorskins are a ***** to get on and off while others say they have no problems. I struggled with this one for a while and then gave up (like I said, I'm sick and have no strength, and it was hell when I did it in good shape) and took it to the LBS two blocks away. The guy there said he thinks it's a combination of the tire and rim that makes it a *****. Whatever; I'll pay 6 bucks to avoid 30+ minutes of hell like that.

On the other hand, the Gatorskins are fantastic once on the bike, at least for the 75 miles I've ridden them.

What made me move away from Kenda - well those are t he tires on my other bike, bought back when I had no money, and I bought a second bike used and its tires were totally shot. By this time I had a nice sized bank account and an LBS had a sick deal on Gatorskins (40 apiece) so I went for them. Once the kendas wear out on that other bike I'll definitely upgrade those tires too, though maybe not to Gatorskins since I like being able to put tires on and off easily and there has to be other good tires that aren't so difficult.

The cheapo Kendas have had a fair number of flats and don't ride very nice, but I was just *****in about how in the maybe thousand miles I have on them, their ratio is still technically better than 75:1.
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I've had very bad luck with my gatroskins. Flatted on first tandem ride, very itty bitty grain of glass. SO ok, it's a tandem, more weight. So I swap the rear to my single bike, same results.

1000 miles down the road, the cords show through!......Same with the single!............$40 per tire for this? Never again!

I read a tire rec in the tandem forum. REI sells Serfas Seca tires for $22, (wire bead, so what!) Placed a 28 on the tandem rear and after 300-400 miles, no signs of wear, no flats! Put some on the single too with the same great results.

Bike shops do have a folding version but a few buck more. Be careful as they do run a bit narrow as several brands do vary in width. I ues a 25 on the rear which is more like the 23's I've used.
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Plus, the gators are HELL to get on and off.
By chance were you putting them on bontrager rims? I tend to have problems with any Conti tire on them. The same tire will go on easy on a velocity.
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Mavic rims. The LBS guy said he didn't have any problems with it...I don't believe his ass for a second.
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I'm assuming this is the wire bead? I've had the same issue with Mavic and Campy wheels with these tires. They mounted pretty easily with Shimano wheels. Guess they aren't as large as the others. Also, the folders are usually easier to mount. At least that's what I've found.
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Jude, sometimes the guy who puts on hundreds of tires a year will have an easy time with a tire someone who installs a dozen or so a year won't. Especially the guy in the shop who always takes over the tough tires from the other mechanics.

I am that guy, we're not trying to make you look bad, I promise.
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