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    New 11 Speed Shimano IGH Anounced, SG-S700

    Today Shimano Europe announced a new 11 speed IGH with a 409% overall range.

    - 8 steps of 13% and 2 of 17%
    - Oil Bath Lubrication
    - Disc brake compatible standard
    - Weight about 1600 Grams

    Internals are all new and use helical gears if I understand the Babelfish translation of the German web site correctly. Also the new rapidfire shifter will allow changes of more than one gear at a time apparently.

    I like the oil bath lubrication like has been used by the Rohloff hub for years. The 409% range and relatively even steps between gears are also attractive and should be superior to the Shimano 8 speed design.

    http://www.radfahren.de/news/detaila...gang-nabe.html
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    This is very good news. I would wait for at least two years before buying one. Shimano needs time to work out the bugs just like the Nexus 7 was replaced by the much superior Nexus 8 Red band.

    There's no question they are going after the Rohloff market at probably half the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve View Post
    This is very good news. I would wait for at least two years before buying one. Shimano needs time to work out the bugs just like the Nexus 7 was replaced by the much superior Nexus 8 Red band.

    There's no question they are going after the Rohloff market at probably half the price.
    It's about time a reputable manufacturer goes after Rohloff! I am very excited by this news.

    A great day for cyclists who like IGHs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve View Post
    This is very good news. I would wait for at least two years before buying one. Shimano needs time to work out the bugs just like the Nexus 7 was replaced by the much superior Nexus 8 Red band.

    There's no question they are going after the Rohloff market at probably half the price.
    The Nexus 7 was not replaced by the Nexus 8 Red Band as the 7 speed is still available. Both the Nexus 7 and early Nexus 7 and 8 hubs had some problems but the Nexus 7 has been through about 7 model revisions and the Nexus 8 about 4 or so. The biggest problem I have heard mentioned for the early Nexus 8 hubs was poor sealing so water could intrude and cause problems. The Nexus 8 is also still available in regular and deluxe red band versions. The Coaster brake Nexus 8 is not even available in the red band version.

    With the oil bath lubrication on the new Nexus 11 hopefully it will have good enough seals so that water intrusion will not be an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LUCAS View Post
    It's about time a reputable manufacturer goes after Rohloff! I am very excited by this news.

    A great day for cyclists who like IGHs.
    When you say reputable are you referring to the Canadian bike maker who claimed he was coming out with a Rohloff killer hub after having a fight with Rohloff? So far as I know that one never made it to market. So far as I know Rohloff is reputable. Their high prices are primarily due to manufacture in Germany in quite limited numbers compared to Shimano or SRAM hubs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tatfiend View Post
    When you say reputable are you referring to the Canadian bike maker who claimed he was coming out with a Rohloff killer hub after having a fight with Rohloff? So far as I know that one never made it to market. So far as I know Rohloff is reputable. Their high prices are primarily due to manufacture in Germany in quite limited numbers compared to Shimano or SRAM hubs.
    No, I am not talking about the Canadian bike maker. I am very impressed with everything about the Rohloff, except price. It sure is nice to see Shimano getting real serious about IGHs. And at reasonable pricing to boot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LUCAS View Post
    No, I am not talking about the Canadian bike maker. I am very impressed with everything about the Rohloff, except price. It sure is nice to see Shimano getting real serious about IGHs. And at reasonable pricing to boot!
    I will want to see how available the Shimano hub is going to be and how well the servicing and parts availability will be on it. Rohloff is expensive for a reason, small production and from what I have observed outstanding service. Shimano doesn't do nearly as well on the service front.

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    I'd like to know if the new hub will have an easy quick-release cable like the Rohloff and Sram I9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bokes View Post
    I'd like to know if the new hub will have an easy quick-release cable like the Rohloff and Sram I9.
    Good point. One thing that you can do with the current Shimano hubs, depending on whether or not you use continuous housing runs, is add a quick disconnect to the cable such as some people use with frames with S&S couplers installed. I have a pair of Rohloff quick disconnects I am going to install on my Alfine shift cable. Should be easy for me to do as the cable routing I am using includes runs of open cable w/o housing.
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    Here is a short riding impression and a number of additional photos, in English even.

    http://road.cc/content/news/13981-sh...-car-park-test
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