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Old 08-20-04, 08:29 PM   #1
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Missing Forum?

Where is the "Women's Cycling" forum? I can't seem to find it.
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Old 08-20-04, 10:22 PM   #2
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Possibly closed due to some problems that have been occuring in there.
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Announcement: Women's Cycling Forum Goes Private

You can only access it if you are a woman. I am, female that is, and it is indeed still here! Of course I'm sure you guessed that from my name *princess* I toyed with diva also...
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Awww.. they even blocked my access lol..
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so when will the mens only forum be created? you know it's only fair.
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Announcement: Women's Cycling Forum Goes Private

You can only access it if you are a woman. I am, female that is, and it is indeed still here! Of course I'm sure you guessed that from my name *princess* I toyed with diva also...
My Princess... how about sharing your access password? I'm only gonna lurk. I promise.
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OK, i have to ask this. What do women talk about there that they need a special password for it? We, men, post threads such as "how to shave my balls" all the time without any worries that a lady might read it. Hell, I even posted one like that, although my buddies were hurt due to saddle problems . I knew it, they are ganging up on us………..And Joe made it on purpose so now only he could read it .
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Yup, just me and 150 women talking about yeast infection...
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I for one think it's a shame that the women's forum got closed off to the general public. I'm not sure why women's topics need to be only accessable to women. A saw a lot of women asking questions that exacted plenty of good advice and information from the men. I also saw some very valid threads in that forum started by men who were inquiring on behalf of their female friends. Besides... what's to stop someone from pretending to be female to get into Women's Cycling? This is the Internet... that kind of thing happens all the time.
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I for one think it's a shame that the women's forum got closed off to the general public. I'm not sure why women's topics need to be only accessable to women. A saw a lot of women asking questions that exacted plenty of good advice and information from the men. I also saw some very valid threads in that forum started by men who were inquiring on behalf of their female friends. Besides... what's to stop someone from pretending to be female to get into Women's Cycling? This is the Internet... that kind of thing happens all the time.

Yeah... and how are they going to get the guys from this board to post their pics in the "Pics of Fit men" thread?

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so what exactly is the reasoning behind this switch? what could possible be said that doesnt need to be heard by guys, i mean your on a totaly anonymous account in a forum where only a rare few actualy know each other. (generaly) you have know idea if the person your talking about these "personal" topics with is really a girl in the first place. and Whats going to keep guys from making new accounts and poseing as women. By denyng guys access to the forum your only going to make them want to try and scam there way into the forum.
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I for one think it's a shame that the women's forum got closed off to the general public. I'm not sure why women's topics need to be only accessable to women. A saw a lot of women asking questions that exacted plenty of good advice and information from the men. I also saw some very valid threads in that forum started by men who were inquiring on behalf of their female friends. Besides... what's to stop someone from pretending to be female to get into Women's Cycling? This is the Internet... that kind of thing happens all the time.
Agreed. It's just about impossible to validate someone's gender over the internet, unless you ask for a webcam check, and even that can be forged.

I understand there were some offensive things posted in there, although I didn't visit it often enough to see any of them myself. Personally, I think a better course of action would have been to simply block the access of the individuals who posted that content via their IP, which is far easier to distinguish than someone's gender. Ultimately I think that will happen anyway -- particularly if people start lying about their gender. Anyone who's ever visited a chat-room will know how often that happens.
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I'm a female, my girlfriend can vouch for that one.
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OK, i have to ask this. What do women talk about there that they need a special password for it? We, men, post threads such as "how to shave my balls" all the time without any worries that a lady might read it. Hell, I even posted one like that, although my buddies were hurt due to saddle problems . I knew it, they are ganging up on us………..And Joe made it on purpose so now only he could read it .
I use my electric shaver, just trim the long hairs on your balls first then smooth it out. You gotta repeat it every few days otherwise it gets itchy. EWWWWW...
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thanks for telling us. See, we are not ashamed, not even trying to hide. I bet ladies having fun watching us trying to get in their forum, and I bet there’s a discussion there right now
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I'm happy it happened.

Course it will get boring pretty fast w/out troll-like comments from the dudes.
Men can falsify their gender, but if they become disruptive, then they'll get booted.
I for one will be keeping my eyes opening for indentity switching.
It's not that we don't like men viewing, but we don't like trouble making.
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Who ever said that we don't have ladies trolls that lurk around every other forum where we, men, discuss our things? there's no point in that if you ask me, everything is anonymous on the internet. there's nothing that will stop a troll from making an account and pretending to be a female. I don't know why I even participate in this conversation. I never posted or read any of the women's forums..........
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It's not that we don't like men viewing, but we don't like trouble making.
So now you have the added burden of watching out and scrutinizing posts for possible indentity switchers? That to me certainly detracts from overall enjoyment. And let's say you have completely sanitised that portion of BikeForums... well, there's plenty of other ways for trolls and troublemakers to place their mark. Will you now simply isolate yourself behind the "walls" of Women's Cycling and not participate in the rest of the forums? Why can't you just apply the your troll-filtering on a post-by-post or thread-by-thread basis instead of a forum basis? The thing I worry about most when we start protecting gardens like this (and especially in a manner which I think offers very little substantial "protection") is that it will prematurely segregate interaction between forums members who could otherwise benefit from one-another's exchange. While it may not necessarily produce an "us vs. them" attitude yet, it certainly conveys an "us and them" feeling.
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I have a question for someone that is a moderator or somehow in the know as to what I should do. Here is my problem. I am new to here and I am new to the biking sport. My first post was in the woman's forum to get some info as to how to help my wife that is also new to biking get the most out of the sport. I got some great ideas back from the ladies and was still hoping to get more. Now, here is my latest problem.. I was wanting my wife to get registered here so she could ask questions and at least some of the time I am sure she would like to post in the "Woman's Cycling" forum. We have one computer so she would use the same one that I use. Does that mean she is just "out of luck"? Some help please...Thanks, Don....
ps...I have also lost all of the ideas except for the ones I can remember because I no longer have access to my previous posting....
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We have one computer so she would use the same one that I use. Does that mean she is just "out of luck"?
I can't speak for the moderators but I would imagine that since she would be registered seperately and thus have her own BF account, then she could just login seperately and gain access to the Women's Cycling forum under her login ID. Of course if people start scrutinising for gender masquerading based on IP address from a specific machine then she might get flagged. I for one think that type of tactic is faulty. In the past, with shared computing environments, such a suggestion would have been laughed at. In today's world where people normally think of a single IP address being bound to a single user, that false criteria is tempting to be used for filtering. I hope we don't make that mistake. I'm sure I'm not the only person who runs multiuser machines at home. My wife and many of my friends have accounts on my "user" machines and do a lot of their access from there and thus their source IP address would all be the same. To the uninitiated, it would appear they were multiple personalities of the same individual although that's not true.
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When Koffee came to me with the idea, she told me up front, if it doesn't work out, we will revert it back to how it was. Before the change, I was looking to dissolve the womens only forum, as most of the threads in that forum could be better placed in the other more specific forums.

I am more then happy to test this format for a month or two, and see how things work out.
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If you men want to talk about Yeast infections, then just talk about them -- it doesn't have to be in the womens forums -- you can also join a sex talk forum
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