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Old 04-05-10, 11:04 AM   #1
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So, 700c, balloon tyres, drop bars, disc brakes - anyone got one (or similar)?

Hi all,

After many "spec me" threads, time on the road and the internet I THINK I know what I want my next bike to be!

700c
disc brakes
drop bars
clearance for balloon tyres
mounts for mudguards
alu or steel

I was wondering if anyone had pictures of their bikes with similar specs.

Also would like pointers on whether it is better to buy a bike which covers most of the options and then modify it to drop bars, or build it up from scratch. I want the price to be around 700 with an absolute max of 1000.

Any suggestions for "donor bikes" or frames to start from?

Am in the UK.

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Old 04-05-10, 11:39 AM   #2
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You could probably find a rigid MTB 29er to start from that would make a good platform. The frame should have the clearance and the mounts you need. 29er tires are essentially balloon tires anyways - just replace knobbies with slicks. Drop bars could be added as well.
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Salsa Fargo?
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Salsa Fargo?
Quite expensive frameset.

I was looking at the Karate Monkey to use as a base. I figured a 29er frame would be the way to go - also want it rigid as balloon tyres + suspension is just overkill!

I guess it is worth adding that my reason for wanting a bike like this is so that I can just roll over all potholes! Some of the roads I use are really bad, and when / if they ever get fixed I can just put smaller tyres on.

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Old 04-05-10, 12:00 PM   #5
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Singlar Peregrine - Singular is a UK company, easy for you to get one. The Singular website makes it look like a pretty cool bike.

http://www.singularcycles.com/peregrine.html
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I may be in the market for something along this description as well, ways down the road though. i would want it to look like a traditional road/touring bike though, ideally, lugged steel. Anything not custom/expensive come to mind?

Edit: never mind, looks like the peregrine works, I doubt I'd find anything cheaper.

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Old 04-05-10, 12:41 PM   #7
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A 29er would work... with Schwalbe Big Apple tires you don't need a suspension fork - that's overkill. My Niner Sir Niner fulfills that need just well.
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Singlar Peregrine - Singular is a UK company, easy for you to get one. The Singular website makes it look like a pretty cool bike.

http://www.singularcycles.com/peregrine.html
Oh very nice, I think you are bang on the money with this one. Will definitely check it out - a little bit pricey though at 540 just for the frameset (karate monkey is around 300)

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Old 04-05-10, 01:17 PM   #9
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You could also try a 650b conversion on a regular road bike. It would limit your tire selection, but open up plenty of frame options. I've been thinking about doing this myself, to make my road bike a little more pot-hole capable.
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Old 04-05-10, 02:51 PM   #10
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A 650B gives you medium width tires. The Panaracer Col De La Vie tires in 650B X 38 (effectively equivalent to 700C X 23) give a ride that can only be described as plush. And that's a good thing on cobble-stoned streets and rough roads.
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Cool sounds like a possibility, are there many tyres in this size (650B)? Perhaps a 26" rim with a big apple on it would work similarly?

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Just get a Cross Check. It will fit 45mm tires with fenders. Without fenders some 2.0 29er tires will fit the fork.
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Do 700x35 count as balloon tires?
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All but the disc brakes.

The frameset is a Bikesdirect Outcast 29er. Big Apples, fenders, and the newly revived Sturmey Archer 3spd fixed hub with bar con shifter. Rides like a dream.

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I can't get their website to come up right now, but look on the Raleigh Bicycles website, under mountain bikes. They sell a 29r that might meet your desired specifications. Steel frame with a rigid fork and disc brakes. No price listed, so you'll have to check at your local dealer's shop. And it has that iconic British name, too!
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My Atlantis will do that, depending on how you define "balloon tires." I have 37mm Paselas on it now, but it's had 41s without any trouble. Fenders will fit with the 37s; I haven't tried them with the 41s. Don't know if Riv would braze on disc brake mounts on its non-custom bikes, but they're pretty accommodating. IMO, discs aren't worth the expense anyway. bikes already HAVE disc brakes, with the rim functioning as the disk.
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IMO, discs aren't worth the expense anyway. bikes already HAVE disc brakes, with the rim functioning as the disk.
I have to disagree, I love my disc brakes and find them to be very effective.

Thanks for all the options people, will investigate them tonight
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700c [x]
disc brakes [x] (v brakes at the moment)
drop bars [x]
clearance for balloon tyres [x]
mounts for mudguards [x] (you'll need p-clips)
alu or steel [x] (steel)

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Nice, any more info on the frame? Also can it take gears - I like my gears!

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This bike looks light and fast and would handle most potholes with no trouble. http://www.priceinspector.co.uk/d/49...compare-prices If necessary you could probably fit 40 mm tires. Disc brakes would not be needed unless you plan on doing long mountain descents with full touring load. Would you be able to take advantage of the UK commuter purchase through work to save the income tax on the bike price? My daughter recently saved 35% on the cost of a Specialized Rockhopper by this scheme.
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Tis a nice bike, but I currently ride a bike on which I can fit 40mm + tyres but I have my heart set on being able to use balloon tyres, just to see what they are like! I can indeed take advantage of the cycle to work scheme however it may depend on which retailer my employer chooses as they may not allow custom bikes.

Also I like my disc brakes!
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700c - check
disc brakes - check (up front where I need it most)
drop bars - check
clearance for balloon tyres - check (assuming 44mm is big enough for you)
mounts for mudguards - check (on frame and fork, also has rack mounts)
alu or steel - Nope, all carbon here
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From realcyclist.com http://www.realcyclist.com/roadbike/.../RMB0040M.html

I bought this frame http://www.bikepedia.com/Quickbike/B...Disc&Type=bike and built what you listed for my wife with drop bars.
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To those who say "You don't need Discs" Well, you're probably right. You don't "need" them. However, if you come to somewhere like. say Calgary, when a small Chinook hits after some recent snowfall, well, you might find that riding through that godawfull crap on the roads, you might find you'd really "like" to have discs. I tell ya' that stuff can muck up rim brakes in a matter of minutes.
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To those who say "You don't need Discs" Well, you're probably right. You don't "need" them. However, if you come to somewhere like. say Calgary, when a small Chinook hits after some recent snowfall, well, you might find that riding through that godawfull crap on the roads, you might find you'd really "like" to have discs. I tell ya' that stuff can muck up rim brakes in a matter of minutes.
Anywhere with hills and rainfall is a spot where disc brakes are nice to have. No, you don't need them but unless you like replacing rims every few years and dealing with unpredictable braking and constant brake pad adjustments in the interim, disc brakes are the answer.
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