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    How expensive should a rear wheel be in order to lock?

    Usually I U-lock my front wheel and frame altogether. If possible I want to avoid getting some of that grease and grime on my bare hands associated with taking the rear wheel off.

    I've seen some people lock both their wheels. How expensive should the rear wheel be in order to lock it up with the rest of the bike?

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    I use a locking skewer on the front wheel so that I can stick the u-lock through the rear triangle and rear wheel, thus locking both!
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    I use two locks. A u-lock on the rear and a cable on the front. The u-lock attaches to the fixed object (bike rack, lamp post, whatever). The rear wheel is usually the next most expensive part of a bike after the frame.

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    Depends on the neighborhood.

    When we were doing some training from the Alliance for Biking and Walking, and locked the bikes out in front of the building we were meeting in, the trainer couldn't believe that he was locking up his rented carbon fiber bike with a curly cable.

    And it was still there at the end of the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by facial View Post
    Usually I U-lock my front wheel and frame altogether. If possible I want to avoid getting some of that grease and grime on my bare hands associated with taking the rear wheel off.

    I've seen some people lock both their wheels. How expensive should the rear wheel be in order to lock it up with the rest of the bike?
    Sheldon's advice is to lock the rear wheel to a post with a small U-lock. That's what I do with my touring bike; I use a Bulldog Mini. The advantage of a small lock, besides the lower weight, is that you can't get a jack in it. I use a Pitlock skewer on my front wheel with its SON dynohub.

    I use a simple cable lock on my commuter bike, since it doesn't have quick releases and it looks dowdy ("women's" frame, black, baskets, etc.) despite the Shimano dynohub and 8-speed Nexus rear hub. Saturday, though, I made the mistake of taking the cable lock with my touring bike for light security while shopping. I locked up the bike outside a market, bought some steak and veggies, and then came out to unlock the bike, only realizing then that I had grabbed the wrong set of keys...and I was 8 miles from home, with a bad knee (biking was fine, walking was not). Fortunately the farmer across the road had a pair of bolt cutters that sheared through the 10mm cable like butter. I replaced the cable lock the next day with one that has a combination. My U-lock requires the key to close as well as open, so I don't run the same risk with it.

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    I don't think it's an expense issue. It's more like, how far do you want to walk before you'll lock both wheels?

    For me, the answer to that question is "About ten feet."
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    There is no limit to thieves. I was in the LBS when a lady came in looking for a replacement front wheel for her Huffy grade cruiser. Someone in her apartment complex had stolen the original front wheel off her unlocked bike, left outside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by facial View Post
    How expensive should the rear wheel be in order to lock it up with the rest of the bike?
    How much and how often are you willing to pay for a replacement? Plus what TSL said

    Lock it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatfiend View Post
    There is no limit to thieves. I was in the LBS when a lady came in looking for a replacement front wheel for her Huffy grade cruiser. Someone in her apartment complex had stolen the original front wheel off her unlocked bike, left outside.
    Yup. I saw a twentysomething and his dad come into my LBS for a new front wheel to replace the one that had been stolen off of his bike. Looking at the condition of the bike and its rear wheel, I'd be surprised if some of the spokes weren't about to rust clean though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsl View Post
    I don't think it's an expense issue. It's more like, how far do you want to walk before you'll lock both wheels?

    For me, the answer to that question is "About ten feet."


    FWIW if you have a regular sized U lock you should be able to place the U lock around a solid post, through the rear wheel and frame as well as the removed front wheel. I did it that way for years.

    I also agree that it depends on the neighborhood...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarracksSi View Post
    the one that had been stolen off of his bike. Looking at the condition of the bike and its rear wheel, I'd be surprised if some of the spokes weren't about to rust clean though.
    What thieves won't do to avoid having to patch a flat!
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    Replacing a back wheel costs more than replacing a front wheel, so if you are going to lock only one - I'd go for the back wheel.

    I've also been finding it easier to get my back tire & frame through a U lock than my front tire - but that depends on where I'm locking up and the type of rack.

    I'd recommend getting a secondary cable lock - I usually loop it through my front wheel and attach the end into my U lock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wahoonc View Post


    FWIW if you have a regular sized U lock you should be able to place the U lock around a solid post, through the rear wheel and frame as well as the removed front wheel. I did it that way for years.

    Aaron
    This is a great idea. I ride with a U-lock and a walmart combo cable lock, but the low quality cable lock makes me feel uncomfortable able the safety of my front wheel in some places. I might just ditch the extra weight and use your method.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wahoonc View Post


    FWIW if you have a regular sized U lock you should be able to place the U lock around a solid post, through the rear wheel and frame as well as the removed front wheel. I did it that way for years.

    I also agree that it depends on the neighborhood...

    Aaron
    +1

    Or forget the front wheel and wheelie home if necessary. That's how Evel Knievel got started.

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    When I used to bike around NYC (early 70's!!), I used to lock the back wheel with the U-lock & take the front wheel with me.

    The question you have to ask yourself is "how far do I want to lug a one wheeled bike?" - and then lock up accordingly!
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    Ulock and cable. Ulock thru rear wheel and frame to post. Cable lasso style through the front wheel to the ulock at the rear, no need to remove the front wheel.

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    Since we're discussing locking strategies --

    If I'm using two locks, it's usually a U-lock and a chain. One locks the bike to a rack/lamppost/fence/tree, the other locks the unsecured wheel to the bike. Sometimes I use two U-locks since either lock is lighter than my chain; sometimes I just use the chain. I ultimately prefer the chain since I can lock up to just about anything. That way, I'm not SOL if all the bike racks are full.

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