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Old 09-03-04, 02:26 PM   #26
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The thing that really freakin annoys me is when cyclists use the WRONG bike lane. Two days ago I was coming back from Old Town, riding in the right-hand bike lane, probably going about 20-25. Out of nowhere these two morons (guy and girl) turn left into my bike lane and start heading towards me - SIDE BY SIDE!!!! WTF? . . . I literally had to stop and slide over right next to some parked cars to avoid getting run down by two morons on some ******** cruisers.
I have this problem on a one way feeder street to the bike path I often commute on. It is one way away from the path. The route to the path has an annoying but brief stretch of bad brick road. A lot of cyclists avoid the brick by going the wrong way on the one way street. To make matters worse, there's only a narrow corridor on the street, so there are often conflicts. I won't budge from the corridor to avoid a wrong-way rider, but I will come to a cpmplete stop to let them go around.
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Old 09-03-04, 06:41 PM   #27
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[QUOTE=lala]I wish I had useable bike trails for commuting in cleveland. I know that politically I should be pro roads, but at this point I feel like a martyr for the cause.
Lala..I have only skirted about Cleveland.. Knowing the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is there, having heard that you have cleaned up the Cuyoga River, and having met Dennis Kucinich, and heard of your ethnic diversity( eastern European food,culture) I would like to see your town..Downtown supposedly in undergoing some significant redevelopment?
I am elated when our best cities come back..Urban homesteading is supposedly big in places like Milwaukee, Pittsburg?
But the major point..Hope Cleveland gets its' bike trails.. You have some coastal areas, river trails that could really make cycling welcome to Cleveland. ... But, if your surface streets are like Detroit's ; I can't imagine an enjoyable ride. I could no more imagine riding down busy Michigan ave. than riding into hell.
Guess, I would have to give up cycling under those circumstances..
Does Cleveland not have some bike adovacy group attempting to make Cleveland more bike friendly.? Usually city transportation officials will talk to you.
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We do have a small new advocacy group -- clevelandbikes. We are getting a bike lane over one bridge, but no where else on that road and there's new bike lanes going in a 5 mile stretch (from cleveland state u to university circle). We do have trails, but they are in parks and not usable for commuting. cleveland roads are crappy! We are #1 in poverty!

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I wish I had useable bike trails for commuting in cleveland. I know that politically I should be pro roads, but at this point I feel like a martyr for the cause. [/QUOTE=lala]

Lala..I have only skirted about Cleveland.. Knowing the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is there, having heard that you have cleaned up the Cuyoga River, and having met Dennis Kucinich, and heard of your ethnic diversity( eastern European food,culture) I would like to see your town..Downtown supposedly in undergoing some significant redevelopment?
I am elated when our best cities come back..Urban homesteading is supposedly big in places like Milwaukee, Pittsburg?
But the major point..Hope Cleveland gets its' bike trails.. You have some coastal areas, river trails that could really make cycling welcome to Cleveland. ... But, if your surface streets are like Detroit's ; I can't imagine an enjoyable ride. I could no more imagine riding down busy Michigan ave. than riding into hell.
Guess, I would have to give up cycling under those circumstances..
Does Cleveland not have some bike adovacy group attempting to make Cleveland more bike friendly.? Usually city transportation officials will talk to you.
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Lala. If I lived near a bike advocacy group, I would be very involved.
..Should Clevelanders be poorer than East St. Louis,you might qualify as a province of Ethiopia
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I think Roads & Paths both have their time and place. I commute daily to work over busy , traffic filled streets at rush hour so the Paths sometimes seem like a nice break. I would say that I'm about 50/50. I normally ride 15-20 miles after work as well & it has always seemed a perfect time to use the Bike Paths. There is rarely anyone on the Paths around here at 4-4:30 PM, but the roads are clogged. I often see other roadies stalled on narrow streets trying to navigate through the cars, while I speed by on the path next to the road. Never seemed to make much sense to me to continue to fight the traffic just to earn your "roadie merit badge" or something...
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We do have a small new advocacy group -- clevelandbikes. We are getting a bike lane over one bridge, but no where else on that road and there's new bike lanes going in a 5 mile stretch (from cleveland state u to university circle). We do have trails, but they are in parks and not usable for commuting. cleveland roads are crappy! We are #1 in poverty!
Don't equate bike lanes with bike friendly. There are a few places where lanes might be helpful (bridges, for example), but most of them are more dangerous than unstriped lanes. Most bike lanes are bike unfriendly.
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