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operator 09-03-04 08:33 PM

Is this V02Max Calculator B.S?
 
Well check this out.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/vo2max.htm

Guest 09-03-04 10:26 PM

Yes.

Seriously, anyone that's had a VO2 max test knows that isn't even close to how the test is performed (I'm annoyed with the author, it's a ridiculous test that makes no sense).

VO2 max is the measure of how much oxygen your body can uptake during exercise- actually,the maximum amount of oxygen you can take in while exercising. That's what makes this test so silly. A VO2 max test has you hooked up to a two way valve while either wearing a heart rate monitor or hooked to a ECG so they can graph your heart rate during the activity. The test measures the amount of oxygen you breathe in while the intensity of the exercise is increased in time increments (ie- I had one done, and they increased the resistance on the ergometer bike every 30 seconds until I felt like I was going to drop from exhaustion). The results are measured in l/min or ml/kg/min. How you can get such details from a stop watch and a track is beyond me... it's just not possible.

Koffee

capsicum 09-04-04 08:57 AM

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Yes.

Seriously, anyone that's had a VO2 max test knows that isn't even close to how the test is performed (I'm annoyed with the author, it's a ridiculous test that makes no sense).
Its a bodybuilding article, what do you expect? I have yet to see any accurate information, on anything, from any bodybuilding source. I'm not sure why but that group as a whole seems oddly resistant to science, math, logic and so forth.:rolleyes:;)

Guest 09-04-04 03:12 PM

I actually expect nothing from the bodybuilding scene when it comes to health and fitness. They are a totally different group of fitness folks, and I don't think very many of them have real experience with health and fitness to give expert advice.

Koffee

operator 09-04-04 06:30 PM

Hmm thanks for the confirmation. It did seem fishy.

Phatman 09-05-04 05:46 PM

HAH! they say that having a VO2 max of 67 is like being a college student! HAHAHA! more then half of the college students I see around here smoke and probably have a vo2 max of like 2 or something.

capsicum 09-05-04 06:15 PM

I beleive it said college athlete.

capsicum 09-05-04 07:12 PM

Vo2 max 'approximations' can be done with tests similer to this, but they must be sport specific because non-specific untrained muscles will not be able to max your Vo2.

A true Vo2 max test will hook you up to a gas analyzer and is the most accurate way to test, like koffee said.

I don't know of any cycling Vo2max approximations. Maybe it's the difference in bikes that makes this sort of approximation test null for cyclists.

Xtrmyorick 09-06-04 11:15 AM

So what was yours, Koffee?

miles305 09-07-04 12:38 AM

i tried a similar test to this one and it put my vo2 max at about 77. i consider myself a decent runner and cyclist but i am no where near a pro cyclist or runner. too bad this isn't accurate.

operator 09-07-04 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Phatman
HAH! they say that having a VO2 max of 67 is like being a college student! HAHAHA! more then half of the college students I see around here smoke and probably have a vo2 max of like 2 or something.

Haha.

Bokkie 09-07-04 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by koffee brown
Seriously, anyone that's had a VO2 max test knows that isn't even close to how the test is performed (I'm annoyed with the author, it's a ridiculous test that makes no sense).

Koffee, are you saying that VO2 tests have little use, or just the specific technique that the article describes? I'm interested in this, because 3 weeks ago I had a minor heart attack during a 24hr mtb race and the cardiologist treating me said there would be some value in having a cardio-treadmill and respiration test, the results of which may help a sports training/therapist to structure a more balanced exercise program for me. I won't personally foot the bill (my medical aid scheme will) but is it a waste of time my going through all of this for maybe 0% value?

Comments (anyone?)

Guest 09-07-04 07:05 AM

I assume the test will be that they will hook the mask over your mouth and nose so they can measure oxygen output (results come through on the computer screen), while you are running. They will also attach that ECG or at least a heart rate monitor to your chest so they can correlate your heart rate during the run on the treadmill.

In this case, it would definitely be beneficial. But then again, finding out how much stress you can take during running would be of benefit to anyone with a health condition such as yours.

Koffee

Phatman 09-07-04 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by capsicum
I beleive it said college athlete.

okay...excuse me, 62 is a college student. thats still bull. 62 is still really good.

Bokkie 09-07-04 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by koffee brown
In this case, it would definitely be beneficial. But then again, finding out how much stress you can take during running would be of benefit to anyone with a health condition such as yours.

Koffee

That's ok then. I'm hoping my 'health condition' was a one-off blip on the radar. I've been given the go-ahead to resume exercise but to reduce the intensity until the stress test has been completed. It's sort of frustrating as I like the intense sessions at the gym.


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