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Old 05-31-10, 10:12 AM   #1
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Can the Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit U-lock be broken with Bolt Cutters?

Any bets on whether the Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit U-lock can be cut with bolt-cutters?

I am about to find out. Today, the security dude in my office building threatened to 'cut that lock with bolt cutters, if you don't stop leaving it overnight attached to the rack'.

Had he been more polite, I likely would have stopped my practice. But now that he has issued his threat, I am super curious to see if he can snap that 18mm of hardened steel with a bolt cutter.

He vows to do it within a few days time. Any bets on what will happen?
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Old 05-31-10, 11:04 AM   #2
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Any reason that you couldn't counter his rude demand with a polite inquiry as to why he does not want you to leave your bike overnight?
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Old 05-31-10, 11:44 AM   #3
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Haha, the u-lock is not going to be cut by bolt-cutters in one sitting. The rack? i dunno. Fill the inner lock space with pedals and frame.

You need a hydraulic pocket jack or a portable saw to get through that u-lock.

This won't prevent him from damaging your bicycle trying to cut the lock though.

Maybe buy a second u-lock.. lol
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I'd bet on the bolt cutters breaking before the u lock does.
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Any bets on whether the Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit U-lock can be cut with bolt-cutters?

I am about to find out. Today, the security dude in my office building threatened to 'cut that lock with bolt cutters, if you don't stop leaving it overnight attached to the rack'.

Had he been more polite, I likely would have stopped my practice. But now that he has issued his threat, I am super curious to see if he can snap that 18mm of hardened steel with a bolt cutter.

He vows to do it within a few days time. Any bets on what will happen?

And you're willing to risk your bike for this? You've thrown down the gaunlet and depending on how determined and vindictive the guard is, you risk damage to your bike, as electrik pointed out.

You've gotta ask yourself, is it worth it?
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And you're willing to risk your bike for this? You've thrown down the gaunlet and depending on how determined and vindictive the guard is, you risk damage to your bike, as electrik pointed out.

You've gotta ask yourself, is it worth it?
Or justified, for that matter.
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Old 05-31-10, 02:17 PM   #7
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The security guard isn't going to cut his bike off the rack, just the lock, if he leaves it (the lock) attached to the rack overnight again.

I dunno. Is the potential entertainment worth the price of the lock?
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He's not leaving his whole bike, just the lock. He's not that crazy. I say go for it, see how many lines and dings are on it in the morning.
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Ya . . . just the lock overnight - not the bike.

The security dude is on a power trip to cut locks as he claims that a lock on the rack prevents others from locking their bike in that spot. Physically, it does not, but perhaps psychologically it might deter somebody.

It will be funny to see if he goes through with it and what damage he can do to it. He claims he cut 5 off last summer. I bet they were not NY U-shaped since everybody on the rack uses cheap u-locks and cables.
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Just hide the lock somewhere else and buy the security guard one of these with a nice note!
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Ya . . . just the lock overnight - not the bike.

The security dude is on a power trip to cut locks as he claims that a lock on the rack prevents others from locking their bike in that spot. Physically, it does not, but perhaps psychologically it might deter somebody.

It will be funny to see if he goes through with it and what damage he can do to it. He claims he cut 5 off last summer. I bet they were not NY U-shaped since everybody on the rack uses cheap u-locks and cables.
Clarification noted. I still don't see how you're justified in your passive aggressiveness.
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He's not leaving his whole bike, just the lock. He's not that crazy.
Ahh well, that makes such a difference. He's just 1/2 crazy. Oh well, your lock.
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If your security guard can cut that lock with ordinary bolt cutters I'd have only 2 words to say to him: "Yes sir."
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Can he cut it with bolt cutters? Probably not. But throwing down the gauntlet may just make him more determined, and it won't hold up to an angle grinder with a cutting wheel.
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If you happen to catch him destroying your property don't be afraid to take a few pictures and file a police report.
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Since it's a non-issue to everybody else but him and you, reporting his idiot self would be a waste of breath. But the essence of truth has already been spoken here:

Hey, it's your lock. (IOW -- do whatever, and if you lose, you lose.)
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No locks cut off yet (others leave much less sturdy locks attached to the same rack at night with no bike). I suspect it was an idle threat.

Would be good to know how long it would take to burn through this lock with an angle grinder or whether Liquid Nitrogen or Freon would work? Oxyacetelene torch?

Nobody on the rack, save for one, has a New York lock. He has the 16mm version and I have the 18mm version. Others have cheap u-locks and cables.
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[QUOTE=FastEddy;10901811]No locks cut off yet (others leave much less sturdy locks attached to the same rack at night with no bike). I suspect it was an idle threat.

My God you sound so disappointed that he didn't mess with your lock.

You know I looked up the price of it. That lock ain't cheap unless I'm looking up the wrong one.

Oh well, I guess this was the safest way to test out the lock rather than find out the hard way with your bike as the prize.
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We're allowed to leave bikes on hanging racks in the loading dock, but we are asked not to leave the locks for the same reason. There are not enough racks and management feels that leaving locks on a rack means other folks won't use it. It would be nice if there was some place to leave locks though, they're heavy.

However, my company has made arrangements with management to allow us to bring bikes up the freight elevator, so my bike is just on the other side of my desk and I free up a rack for someone else.
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Well. He admitted that he can't do it with the boltcutters but says he will haul out the portable angle grinder if I leave it overnight again so I may as well find another place to keep the lock.

I did convince him to talk to the building owners to put in a designated pole so we can leave our locks on the pole.
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Well. He admitted that he can't do it with the boltcutters but says he will haul out the portable angle grinder if I leave it overnight again so I may as well find another place to keep the lock.

I did convince him to talk to the building owners to put in a designated pole so we can leave our locks on the pole.
Yeah, an angle grinder will work, i still say he or the owner has no cause to destroy your property and you could probably have him charged. Really though it's probably easier to just move the lock - he probably is just doing what management asked him todo anyways.
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Old 06-18-10, 12:24 PM   #22
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Ask this clown to contact management so that they can post a sign forbidding overnight parking of the lock. Without written authorization, all you have is his words, why may not be fully sanctioned by the owner of the building.
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Sounds suspiciously like someone wants to know how to cut a lock
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Unless the situation has changed dramatically in the last 10 years, almost all U-locks and be forced with a prybar. You pry parallel to the end bar between the legs of the U and it'll usually fail. That's why it's often advantageous to lock the bike with both a u-lock and a cable. Thieves tend to only carry one tool as any more than that gets very suspicious looking. The tool to break a u-lock won't break a cable and the tool to break a cable won't break a u-lock.

Edited to add: Of course, this is all moot if you can still open a Kryptonite lock cylinder with a chewed-on Bic pen...
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Edited to add: Of course, this is all moot if you can still open a Kryptonite lock cylinder with a chewed-on Bic pen...
Hasn't been the case for a while - they've switched to flat keys.
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