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Old 06-04-10, 10:52 AM   #1
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dumbass on Queensboro Bridge

NYC, not that it matters. Coming down the Queensboro (59th Street) Bridge, the final segment is pretty steep. Maybe 10 degrees? More? Enough so I can hit 25 mph without effort. I am very slow going up the bridge, so if I pass someone they're probably going the other way. Down I'm better.

I get passed by one fairly serious biker on the way up, nice bike, blinding clothes. We'll call him Serious. A little later I get passed by another serious biker, nice bike, blinding clothes. We'll call him Dumbass.

I actually got passed by quite a few bikes, but those two to turn up a bit later in the story.

The bottom of the bridge ends in a hairpin turn, and there is an unofficial opening where bikes and pedestrians can get out at the side of the hairpin. So it's a confusing mess of bikes and pedestrians coming in, going out, and crossing with that side opening.

I have this rule - I do not pass going down that final segment, it's too fast and there is that nice hairpin at the end. Sort of like having the caution flag raised. Dumbass clearly doesn't follow this obvious rule and apparently had to pass the other serious biker for some reason.

So as I get to the bottom, I see Serious lying on his back, with a few of the other bikers checking out how he is. Dumbass is explaining to Serious how he's sorry, and he always passes on the left. Dumbass was passing him approaching this hairpin turn and clearly hit him.

I guess I just don't understand this need to pass everyone else. Do it going UPHILL at least. I can go as fast as anyone else going downhill.

I think Serious was ok. He wasn't moving, just lying flat on his back though. No blood obvious, and luckily everyone has cellphones so folks were calling for help.

Slow down on those downhills folks.
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Old 06-04-10, 01:40 PM   #2
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Which way does the hairpin turn go? Was "dumbass" passing "Serious" on the left around a right hand turn and Serious went left and caused Dumbass to collide? I don't know the area at all so can't tell who really was at fault.

On the other hand, it's never smart to be aggressive in congested areas and pass without being totally aware of what the other guy's doing.

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Old 06-04-10, 02:22 PM   #3
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i rode that a couple weeks ago. it is pretty dumb to pass anybody going on the downhill except if it is a good distance before the end (hairpin turn) and 1) if they are going very slow or slow and 2) you give them ample warning.

only an idiot would try to pass very close to the hairpin turn. it just doesn't make sense at anytime.
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It is a very sharp bend to the right. Most riders go to the left (outside of the curve) at the hairpin to make the turn less sharp.
Anyone who passes there is a scumbag of the first water & a complete imbecile; their twin brothers are the ones who try to pass you on the left as you're making the left of the Queens side to loop back towards Brookyn.
I always assume people passing on the downhill on the bridges are doing so to salve their fragile egos from the fact that they couldn't manage to do so on the climb or the flat.
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It's even worse with that opening during the construction since folks can come in and out of it. This guy was good though, and he could pass most folks going up the bridge. He passed me like I was standing still - but I'm mostly going around 8mph so almost everyone can pass me. I understand the challenge though. Some days I'm just feeling good and do go up it faster and it's fun to set a goal of trying to catch that guy up there. I rarely do of course.

But downhill I don't understand. We're all going fast, too fast usually. When I got to the bottom and heard him explaining about how he passes, I really just blew a fuse. It's just common sense not to pass there.
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