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Old 08-11-10, 05:11 PM   #1
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Cutting a chain bike lock?

So at my apartment at school this year, there are two bikes that previous owners left us (ie forgot and are now a bit rusty). I want to use one as a commuter around campus and ditch the other. Whats the best way to cut through the chain (its an actual chain + a padlock)
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Old 08-11-10, 05:16 PM   #2
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Bolt cutters should do the trick.
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Old 08-11-10, 05:23 PM   #3
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Yeah what he said.
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If you don't want to spring for a suitably-large pair of bolt cutters, a hacksaw will do nicely for a bit more effort. If the chain/lock happens to be case-hardened, simply buy a carbide blade for the hacksaw.
Angle grinders work quite well too; that's what the facilities guys use at work when we have to remove bikes.
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Old 08-11-10, 08:00 PM   #5
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Isn't that still theft?
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Old 08-11-10, 08:56 PM   #6
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I know its seems like a waste but you should probably report the bikes to the police as abandon. They may allow you to pick them up after a thirty day period or something. Afterall there may be a reason why the previous tenants left them behind.
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I know its seems like a waste but you should probably report the bikes to the police as abandon. They may allow you to pick them up after a thirty day period or something. Afterall there may be a reason why the previous tenants left them behind.
They have been locked up all summer. I was at home this summer and they are still there three months later. I'm sure if someone wanted them, they would have probably come by now.
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Irregardless, you don't own them.

You live near a campus, how do you know that the owners aren't home on summer break and will be back this fall?

Also they are locked, that indicates that someone didn't abandon them.

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Irregardless, you don't own them.

You live near a campus, how do you know that the owners aren't home on summer break and will be back this fall?
Well we have a lease on the apartment for the year (June - May).
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And did a bill of sale for the bikes come with the lease?
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And did a bill of sale for the bikes come with the lease?
So if someone leaves a home with things inside of it and you move in, you have to hold on to it 'in case' they come back (such as the futon that seemed to have been puked on)?


I'm tired of walking past them as they are chained to the post right outside of our door (on the property part of the lease), and I could actually put one of them to good use.
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If your going to steal the bike then steal it, I am certainly not going to say its ok, and your still a bike thief, you'll rot in hell with the rest of the scum. Why are you justifying this to a bunch of people that legally own bikes. If you don't like it there then call the police as Mindeye suggested.
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And did a bill of sale for the bikes come with the lease?
Did the lessee give permission for the bikes to be stored on a permanent basis on the property that he now has full legal use of?

If not, then the lessee has a right to do with them as he wishes. Consider the use of one of the bikes as compensation for the storage charge, should the owner ever show up.
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So if someone leaves a home with things inside of it and you move in, you have to hold on to it 'in case' they come back (such as the futon that seemed to have been puked on)?


I'm tired of walking past them as they are chained to the post right outside of our door (on the property part of the lease), and I could actually put one of them to good use.
If the items in the house are from past visitor Than clearly you wouldn't be living in that home. As the people who has items in property still live there as long there items are in the house. If you watch court cases you will see that you still got to pay rent and mortgage as long as you still have items in the residents. Even if you go in the house once a month.. So you pick a wrong example.

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If the items in the house are from past visitor Than clearly you wouldn't be living in that home. As the people who has items in property still live there as long there items are in the house. If you watch court cases you will see that you still got to pay rent and mortgage as long as you still have items in the residents. Even if you go in the house once a month.. So you pick a wrong example.
Pretty much every state has different and very specific laws for disposal of abandoned and unclaimed property anywhere from 24 hours to 90 days after the termination of a lease. Since the bikes have been outside, there's no way the abandoning party can claim they were inaccessible for retrieval. The only caveat in most states is that they would technically become the property of the landlord, rather than the new tenant. Most likely, the landlord doesn't want to do anything with them, (or they would have been gone already) and is far more likely to know the local abandoned property laws than anyone on here, so that would be the place to ask. There might even be a form or two, along with a bill of sale from the landlord, that would protect the OP in case the abandoning party ever did try to claim them.

Otherwise, maybe we should be out calling the cops on people who pick up Clif wrappers from the trails; the original owners might want them back someday, no matter how unlikely that may seem.
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You can attempt to justify it as much as you want, but you're still technically stealing it. If you want to do it properly, then inform your landlord or the police and let them know that you'd like it if they determine that it is abandoned.
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Yeah, college town cops really want to deal with all the abandoned bikes.

The bike was left on private property for over 90 days, after a lease had expired, that is not stealing either literally or technically.
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the way I look at it, cut the chain, use the bike, keep the others JUST INCASE they do come back (very highly doubtful), then when you leave, leave them, unless you sunk some money into the one, then I would keep it. Finders keepers......
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Isn't that still theft?
Yes,

If the old tenants have abandoned them, then since they are chained to the building, (I'm not a lawyer) but I think then the owner of the building has legal possession of them.

What the OP might do then is to explain the situation to the landlord and ask him/her if they would mind if you removed the bikes for your use.
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An angle grinder is the best way to cut the chain/lock.
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