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Old 08-22-10, 07:42 PM   #1
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Anyone Know About The X-Mart Schwinn Mirida or Sidewinder?

After riding my 24" Triax (Dynacraft) PK7 for five years now, the chain has bent and I have grown out of it.

I went online and looked at some Mart bikes and then check the Marts around me and I am down to two bikes: The Shwinn (Pacific Cycles) Merida and the Schwinn Sidewinder. I did some research and learned that each Mart (Target, TRU, Kmart, and Walmart) has their own Schwinn bike they sell. All four Schwinns consist of the same frame but are painted different colors and have different components. I took interest in Walmart's Sidewinder because it is the cheapest of the four (all in the 150-200$ price range) and I also like Kmart's Mirada because it is the most expensive of the four and (when I was in store) had different (better?) components on it than the Sidewinder.


I was wondering if there were any owners of either of these bikes or anyone that knows about them that could give me their opinion on the bikes and could tell me the specs of them. I couldn't pull up much info on the Mirida other than it has entry-level Shimano shifters on it, and the Sidewinder has SRAM MRX Pro GripShifters on it. Any other difference?

Could the owners of either bike tell me if they could justify spending $50 more for the Mirada ($200)?




I'll be using the bike for rides into town and around the neighborhood on asphalt/concrete, nothing serious. It would also be used to get me to the grocery store and to other peoples' houses. I've been riding X-mart bikes my whole like and I've had no trouble with them besides the occasional flat tire. I can't imagine either of these bikes being worse than what I've been riding, and will probably turn out to be a whole lot better.


LASTLY, I know most of you will read this and tell me all Mart bikes are junk, tell me to buy used or on CL, to save money and buy at a LBS, or that Mart bikes aren't assembles well. After enough researching, I get the idea. But I want to talk to and get the opinion from someone who has owned either of these bikes or something similar. My whole family has biked for years and we have a fair sense of how to make adjustments and repairs. I'm starting to develop an interest in the hobby, so I am thinking getting a cheap bike might be a good way to start out, and learn how to make adjustments on it an such and figure out if this is a hobby I want to continue for a long time. I could even upgrade the parts as time goes on and for the same price make it as good as a Trek 7000 minus the aluminum frame and some comfort.



Whew. Thanks for the help xD
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Check out Target. They have the Schwinn Tourist Hybrid back in stock. It's $250 but has a nicer component set than anything else I've seen at a dept store.
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Lol Fietz ;l

I'll check it out Ben. I've seen some nice reviews for it. Do they sell em in store?
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there are a huge series of parts at different price points, and the product designer puts something on it to do the job
based on what it all costs.
Bike as an object, is a math project: cost benefit analysis meets accounting.

when it fails to satisfy or function, just change the part ..
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there are a huge series of parts at different price points, and the product designer puts something on it to do the job
based on what it all costs.
Bike as an object, is a math project: cost benefit analysis meets accounting.

when it fails to satisfy or function, just change the part ..

Alright sounds good. If I go to walmart/kmart today, and can't talk to the bike mechanic, what signs do I look for on the bikes in the "showroom" that would tell about his mechanic skill?
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They have no Bike mechanic, someone just puts the bike together, with a little mechanical aptitude.
then goes back to selling fishing tackle, guns,
or cleaning the floor , etc.
thats the point , .. there is no bike department mechanic.

you are better off getting a bike from a bike shop.. even a reconditioned used one ..

The company that makes the parts that they ship to the frame factory that paints a brand name on it

has a cheap group and a number of different price point kits all the way up to the Pro stuff.

go to the Library and read what you can find there about bike mechanics ,
and learn to know what you are looking at that way .

and when the inevitable problems arise you will at least know the words to use
to describe the problem to the bike shop mechanic who will help fix it.
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I understand, but the closest time I'd have enough for a LBS bike is at X-mas, and I really don't want to wait until then to get a bike. I'm still looking for used bikes (salvation army, bike shops, etc) but if I can't find one in my price range soon it will come down to these bikes.
Also, I've learned that the Merida is different from the SW in that it comes with Joy Tech hubs, and [I don't know for sure] but ProMax brakes. (otherwise, C-Star brakes)
So you're paying $50 more for potentially more reliable hubs and better brakes.


I also saw a Schwinn Suburbia for $270 and it looked almost exactly like my mom's Trek 7000. It had the same rear derailleur, shifters, frame material (6061 aluminum), handlebar, and stem. The seat was also wide and [looked/felt] comfortable as well. The hubs were Quandos and it had Promox Brakes and an RST Omni 191 suspension fork, so there were a few differences. Just thought it was interesting.
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Lol Fietz ;l

I'll check it out Ben. I've seen some nice reviews for it. Do they sell em in store?
Yeah I saw it there last week Thu. Last time I checked online they didn't have it on the site.
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Just looked online at the Schwinn Mirada from KMart.

Of the two, stick with the Sidewinder.

Yes, ALMOST all WM's have unskilled labor building bikes, it's a shame. If I thought you were close enough to where I live, I'd invite you to the one I build for -- we DO have bike mechanics here, 2 of them!

The tips to look for are:

1. Front tire -- tread direction correct, QR correctly closed?
2. Brakes -- do the brake arms retract equally, or nearly so? (They don't STAY perfect, even if they start out sweet)
3. Handlebar controls -- and the bar itself, for that matter -- are they anywhere near where they should be?
4. Front derailleur -- is the cage around the chain parallel with he chainrings?

The front tire should be centered in the dropouts/fork, and most tread patterns on these bikes are directional; the easiest check is to see if it matches the back. The QR should be LEVERED closed, not screwed down with the lever in the "open" position. Also, the lever should point toward the back of the bike.

Brake levers should not pull more than halfway to the bar without some significant contact, and should be about fully engaged by then. They should also be parallel to each other, and angled so that, when you sit on the bike, your hands drop over the levers without bending your wrists back.

Hope you're not over 5'10", you'll be a bit cramped on that bike, or just about any other BBS bike....
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Thanks for the info. I'll definitely make sure to look for that. From what I could tell, and remember, the brakes were even and worked well when I was on the bike. I am 5' 11" lol and my feet kept hitting the tire when I turned (big feet :K) the bike around the store. I'm going to call the local Salvation Army soon and also check one more bike shop.

I've never had a foot touch a bike's tire while riding on any of the BBS bikes of my childhood, but if I'm careful I know I'll be fine for the time being.

The bike I road seemed to work fine and all and the man at the sporting goods desk was an older man in maybe his 50s or 60s. If he's there later I'll ask him if he assembles the bikes.
Where's the Walmart you work at, if you don't mind me asking?
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I found a trek 4300 on CL for 175$. Is this strictly a Mtn bike?
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I found a trek 4300 on CL for 175$. Is this strictly a Mtn bike?
My (me behind bike) 4300 with a few minor changes. Just change the tires and it can be what you want it to be. Though the chain stays are a bit short to use traditional racks and panniers.



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