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Old 01-02-11, 11:26 AM   #1
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New Seat Design is Very Wide, for Comfort

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_716167.html

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"BOISE Jeri Rutherford had been a long-distance cyclist since her teens. Then something changed after age 45.

"I just couldn't ride anymore," she says. "It became more and more painful to sit on the bicycle seat." The frustration led Rutherford, who is a corporate-management consultant from Marsing, to pursue a passion to develop a comfortable bicycle seat.

And it was a passion.

"It's my life," she says of cycling.

She believes that a comfortable bicycle seat can change the world by fixing waistlines and the environment. Five years and more than 60 bicycle seat prototypes later, Rutherford is marketing the Carbon Comfort Saddle..."


I am really impressed with the inventor, going through more than 60 prototypes. Myself, I've only built about a dozen prototypes (you may have seen the pictures). I know it can be frustrating to be forced to give up and start anew. I wish Ms. Rutherford success with the business venture.
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Old 01-02-11, 02:45 PM   #2
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as your riding posture becomes more upright the desire for a wider saddle is proportional.

saddle designers make different products due to this fact.

but the sit bones are where the support is transferred to the saddle ,
not the Fat around them ..
but if that saddle gets them up off it and riding their bike all the better ..

on the other end of the spectrum Bike racers put most of their weight,
on the pedals , just to keep up. so their saddles are thin
to get out of the way to do their job .. wearing the sponsors brand names
to the front of the race , where the Publicity and cameras are.

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It's nice to see yet another attempt to improve the bicycle seat. However, Brooks has pretty much done it all, made it all, and seated millions of riders on saddles of proven merit.
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Old 01-02-11, 04:40 PM   #4
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Everyone has his/her own idea of comfort. Personally, I like my Specialized Phenom 143. Got one on each road bike.
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Everyone has his/her own idea of comfort. Personally, I like my Specialized Phenom 143. Got one on each road bike.
Yep, if all our butts were the same one seat/saddle maker would have the whole market!!
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Old 01-02-11, 05:57 PM   #6
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You've got to have a saddle wide enough for your sitbones ... but not too wide. Too wide is just as uncomfortable as too narrow.
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Yep, if all our butts were the same one seat/saddle maker would have the whole market!!
That's what I think too. The reason there are so many different bicycle saddle designs is because somebody just LOVES every blessed one of them.
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I'm sorry, but that looks like it would snag something rather important.

FWIW: I've tried various Brooks saddles on various bikes, mostly with negative results. It wasn't until I tried a WTB saddle that I found something I could actually tolerate all day. That was 20+ years into my cycling career and 10 years after switching to a recumbent. I'm happy enough with the WTB saddles to have them on my uprights. To each his own.
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I'm sorry, but that looks like it would snag something rather important.

FWIW: I've tried various Brooks saddles on various bikes, mostly with negative results. It wasn't until I tried a WTB saddle that I found something I could actually tolerate all day. That was 20+ years into my cycling career and 10 years after switching to a recumbent. I'm happy enough with the WTB saddles to have them on my uprights. To each his own.
When I got this I could not sit on any saddle... everything aggravated the sciatic pain I was experiencing after I fragged the back.

I also have non leather saddles that are quite good but the B17 Imperial is my long distance touring saddle that has been great since day 1.
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Old 01-04-11, 12:13 PM   #11
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I'm sorry, but that looks like it would snag something rather important.
Well... you're supposed to wear shorts or pants when you sit on it

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FWIW: I've tried various Brooks saddles on various bikes, mostly with negative results. It wasn't until I tried a WTB saddle that I found something I could actually tolerate all day. That was 20+ years into my cycling career and 10 years after switching to a recumbent. I'm happy enough with the WTB saddles to have them on my uprights. To each his own.
I've ridden many saddles over the last 25 years and a well broken in Brooks B17 is the most comfortable I've owned (even for riding in regular jeans or shorts without any padding). The breaking in is the key part though. I've got a new B17 on another bike and it's brutal for long rides. I let some of the tension out and it's better, but nothing like it will be once it breaks in. I also have a new B17 Imperial to try. I've decided that the thing to do is to break them in over shorter rides if you can. Summer riding works best. My favorite saddle before the B17 was a circa 1985 Avocet. It wasn't a leather saddle, but something about the shape of it fit me really well...and the padding was just right.
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If leather saddles are the "cure" for anything, it's taking a while for everyone to notice it.

There's not really been a whole lot of innovation in upright bicycle saddles in the last 100 years or so. If you look at a catalog from that pre-WW-1 era, you find pretty much the same things you see today--some differences in materials (they made wicker saddles back then) but leather and rubber were present, in all kinds of shapes and sizes--the U-seats, double-pads and butt-hammocks, and even with the crotch cut-outs. None of that stuff is new. --And neither is padding in cycling shorts, which none of these fancy saddles have been able to eliminate.

About the only one I can say I hadn't seen in vintage catalogs is the Manta segmented flexing style (I coulda SWORE this was called the Spiderflex,,, but now that's just a double-butt-pad type. Did somebody lose an IP lawsuit there???...).

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"I just couldn't ride anymore," she says. "It became more and more painful to sit on the bicycle seat." The frustration led Rutherford, who is a corporate-management consultant from Marsing, to pursue a passion to develop a comfortable bicycle seat. ......
It's a shame she didn't take a look at alternate frame types (that is, recumbents). There's lots of bicycles that come from the manufacturer with only one seat, only that one seat will fit on them, and most riders of all shapes and sizes fit quite comfortably in it. Plus, the whole riding position of being reclined somewhat instead of hunched over forward is way nicer as well.

The riding position of upright bicycles is poor in terms of seat comfort; there is no way to provide much area to support sitting on when the pedals are nearly beneath the seat attachment point.
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Makes sense. Same thing probably happens with shoes, gloves, bar tape, shorts, etc...
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