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Old 01-22-11, 08:36 PM   #1
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man, selling used bike stuff is a d-r-a-g

I am selling a bike and a wheelset.

selling on ebay is a pain because of the packing, shipping, and fees.

selling on craigslist means:
  • people asking you to give them the bike for free
  • people offering you 20-50% of your asking price
  • people negotiating with you for days, then not disappearing
  • people emailing you to tell you that your stuff isn't worth anything, but they'll take it for nothing
  • scammers and more scammers
  • people who don't speak enough english to complete a transaction

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Old 01-23-11, 12:13 AM   #2
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Where are you at? Right now is not really the season to sell bike parts or bikes on local Craigslist. Wait til people get their tax return or Spring time.
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Old 01-23-11, 12:17 AM   #3
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Where are you at? Right now is not really the season to sell bike parts or bikes on local Craigslist. Wait til people get their tax return or Spring time.
I'm in NYC.
I know it's a bad time, but i still have to try
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For ebay. Have a bike shop pack and ship it. You can have the buyer pay for the packing which last time I checked was about $25 or you can split that in half. Saves time and effort and no need to find all the packing materials.

Sounds like you have something that isn't all that droolworthy, NYC should be easy to sell.
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Old 01-23-11, 12:28 AM   #5
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For ebay. Have a bike shop pack and ship it. You can have the buyer pay for the packing which last time I checked was about $25 or you can split that in half. Saves time and effort and no need to find all the packing materials.

Sounds like you have something that isn't all that droolworthy, NYC should be easy to sell.
i set the shipping to a certain price, and said "if it's less i'll refund you the difference"
and, the stuff i'm selling is nice. It's not a R5CA, but it's not crap.
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Yeah, a couple years ago it was pretty good on craigslist, but the last year or so it's been really bad. I get the same problems with it as you do OP. Many times the person telling you that the bike isn't worth what you're asking doesn't even have a clue about the brand and levels.
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Yup.

And if you're selling brand new bikes out of a bike shop you will sometimes encounter all of the same agrivations.
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"people offering you 20-50% of your asking price"

The flip side of this is people offering their stuff at double or triple what it's worth, which is also fairly common.

Part of the thinking on this, though, is that what something is worth to you is not what it's worth to me. Maybe you remember how much you paid for it new, you know how wonderfully it worked, you associate it with the big climb or the fast race or whatever. And I come along and don't care what it cost new, have never used it, so can't guess how wonderfully it might work, and don't have any emotional attachment to it. So if it's worth X to you and worth Y to me, I can either do nothing, or shoot you an email letting you know what it's worth to me and see if you have any interest. If you get a bunch of lowball offers and a few people offering to buy it at your price, great. If all you get are lowball offers, maybe it's you that's too high, rather than the lowballers being too low.
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I tried to give away some ~5-yr old computer stuff on Freecycle once. It was all working hardware, or original software (original CD's and packages).

One of the rules of Freecycle is that what you are offering must be FREE. So you'd think this would be easy, since the hardest part was already settled, right?.......

For each of the items, I emailed the first person who asked for it and said "this is the time I am available the next three days, if you cannot make that then let me know when you can come by". I thought it was simple enough, but most people it seemed wanted to exchange a dozen or more emails. "Did I get the first response?" Yes. "So you still have the item?" Yes. "So you're saying I can get it if I want it?" Yes....

To top it all off, my PC (that I had saved all the emails on) got a virus from opening one of the emails from someone on Freecycle emailing me.

When I got the PC working again I couldn't recover the emails, so then I had the easy excuse to just forget it ever happened, and unjoined the Freecycle group. Nobody did ever show up and ask for what they wanted. A couple days later I left the stuff out for the garbage man.

I just toss everything in the trash now.
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Spend the couple of bucks and buy a membership here on Bike Forums and sell the stuff here.
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Feel your pain. Last few years it was easy to sell stuff on C-list. People showed up, either bought the item cash at the asking price or walked away. Getting a lot more low ballers & negotiators. I've pitched my prices $20 higher so's I can give them a $20 discount. One bike left to sell, and that's the end of my flipping days for a while. I try to be realistic on my pricing. Had a guy offer me $100 for a beautiful Centurion that I was asking $180.00 for. Reply was the day I can walk into the local supermarket and get a 40% discount just for asking is the day I'll agree to the deal. Nothing is worse than someone not showing up when they say they will. Waste of time.
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Feel your pain. Last few years it was easy to sell stuff on C-list. People showed up, either bought the item cash at the asking price or walked away. Getting a lot more low ballers & negotiators. I've pitched my prices $20 higher so's I can give them a $20 discount. One bike left to sell, and that's the end of my flipping days for a while. I try to be realistic on my pricing. Had a guy offer me $100 for a beautiful Centurion that I was asking $180.00 for. Reply was the day I can walk into the local supermarket and get a 40% discount just for asking is the day I'll agree to the deal. Nothing is worse than someone not showing up when they say they will. Waste of time.
I think a lot of these buyers are resellers.

I use to flip bikes and the time and effort that it takes to look for the bikes, sell it and deal with people isn't worth it to me anymore. I rather spend my to time cycling or jib jabbing on BF.
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Old 01-23-11, 04:04 PM   #13
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I might try selling here next, it's just hard with a forum thread. I'd want to bump the thread, make sure people were seeing it, etc,
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Had a potential buyer show up this afternoon to look at my last bike for sale. She'd put in an offer that was realistic at least. Showed up on time. She was absolutely amazingly SMOKIN' HOT! No kidding, a definite 10, model quality, hyperlicious incredibabe.

Dingbat didn't buy. Gave me a story about coming back later in the week. I do want to fondle the seat just one more time.
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i usually get bikes for free. if i was to sell any of my bikes it would be all profit but arranging all the stuff sucks. no matter what i will not deliver. me and a friend of mine wasted time one day making a trip and the guy ended up not wanting it.
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I've had good luck with Craigslist here in Louisville. I sold a set of Monkeylights and a Brooks saddle. Got the asking price for the Brooks, and almost the asking price on the Monkeylights.

I was firm with local, cash-only. I also expected a phone call, which cut out foreign scammers.
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I've been selling my rebuilt bikes on Craigslist for some years now. Sure, you get some of the sorts of things you describe... I just give 'em a polite "see ya later" and move on.
Most of the real buyers will ask intelligent questions and I give 'em my phone number. Of some dozens of bikes I've sold, I had exactly one jerk who showed up and tried to tell me the bike "pulled to the right".
I knew this was not the case, I test everything.... So I asked him why in the world he would still be interested in such a defective bike.
He left and I sold it to the next guy.
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Had a potential buyer show up this afternoon to look at my last bike for sale. She'd put in an offer that was realistic at least. Showed up on time. She was absolutely amazingly SMOKIN' HOT! No kidding, a definite 10, model quality, hyperlicious incredibabe.

Dingbat didn't buy. Gave me a story about coming back later in the week. I do want to fondle the seat just one more time.
You should have "sweetened" the deal with a lifetime free service warranty - then hope that she over uses it.
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Ok, i switched to eBay. How does this look?

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...d=110639078609
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Ok, i switched to eBay. How does this look?

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...d=110639078609
Frame size is clearly listed, so you've already taken care of my #1 eBay/Clist gripe.
The mobile version lumps information into long paragraphs that are a bit hard to read. The regular version of the listing looks nicer.

Things I'd ask about if I were interested in buying the bike:
-A bit more info on the fork (manufacturer and model, ideally).
-Condition of the Rival groupset (how much use has it had?).

Price looks fair to me, FWIW.
(I take a 54-55 cm TT, so no, I'm not interested in buying).
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Frame size is clearly listed, so you've already taken care of my #1 eBay/Clist gripe.
The mobile version lumps information into long paragraphs that are a bit hard to read. The regular version of the listing looks nicer.

Things I'd ask about if I were interested in buying the bike:
-A bit more info on the fork (manufacturer and model, ideally).
-Condition of the Rival groupset (how much use has it had?).

Price looks fair to me, FWIW.
(I take a 54-55 cm TT, so no, I'm not interested in buying).
I've gotten very few questions, actually.

one guy emailed me asking how many miles were on the bike.
I told him about 200 on the frame/wheels/cassette, zero on the cables/housings/tires/fork/saddle/tape.
I told him there were about 2000 on the group, although it had been completely torn down, cleaned, and regreased, and it was mechanically perfect.

He responded by essentially calling me a liar, saying that "i'm probably underestimating" so he'll "assume there are over 3000 on everything" but he'd be happy to take it for half price. ugh.
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He responded by essentially calling me a liar, saying that "i'm probably underestimating" so he'll "assume there are over 3000 on everything" but he'd be happy to take it for half price. ugh.
Try not to take it so personally because he's probably just haggling over the price and he feels like he has to come up with a reason to ask for a concession. Ask him for his phone number and say that if you ever decide to let it go for half price you'll give him a call.
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Try not to take it so personally because he's probably just haggling over the price and he feels like he has to come up with a reason to ask for a concession. Ask him for his phone number and say that if you ever decide to let it go for half price you'll give him a call.
i ended it cordially. I just said "we disagree on the price, which is fine. if you change your mind you can email me."
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I've had pretty good luck with Craigslist for things that would sell quickly anywhere. Nice looking bikes, Apple computers, furniture. I only go to Ebay if Craigslist doesn't find me a buyer quickly, which is rare.
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I have a relatively new Dahon I put on ebay around early December hoping someone would want it for a holiday present. It didn't sell even though it got a lot of hits. I'm assuming folks were doing what I was doing on other items, waiting for the price to go down. It didn't.

Gotta admit though, I probably priced it too high because in my mind, it's still new but to others, it isn't.

Maybe subconsciously I wasn't ready to let it go too. However, I've stopped riding the bike since I put it on sale in December and the longer I go not riding the bike, the more detached I'm getting toward the bike.

At this point I'll just wait for Spring to either put it on ebay again or donate it to my church for a fundraiser. A tax deduction works just as well for me.

P.S. Putting any type of bike on Craig's list is rough in my neck of the woods. Folks are use to buying most of their stuff via thrift stores or garage sales. An average bike costs $35-40. Mind you the bikes usually needs some kind of work (brakes shot or missing, tires worn or flat, tubes missing, shifter shot, saddle missing, rust galore etc).

However, even when you spell out that the bike is in "ready ride condition" and that the brakes, tires, etc have been replaced or maintained, folks still want to pay $35-$40.

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