Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > General Cycling Discussion
Reload this Page >

Parents, shame on you.

Search
Notices
General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

Parents, shame on you.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-01-13, 09:49 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Cyclist0084's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,811
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 184 Post(s)
Liked 353 Times in 90 Posts
Parents, shame on you.

Was out yesterday afternoon driving to a job interview. It was quite a few miles from my home and I had to go through a couple of large residential areas to get there. While en route, I saw quite a few parents out cycling with their kids. In almost every instance, the kids were wearing helmets and the parents were not.

Now I'll be the first to admit that I hardly ever wear a helmet, but when my son was younger and was staying with me on weekends and we would ride together, I made sure we both had our helmets on. Wanted to set a good example for him.

Not wanting this thread to be about wearing helmets versus not wearing helmets but rather would like to understand what the thinking of parents is that insist on their kids wearing a helmet but not they themselves. Kind of like telling your kid smoking is bad all the while puffing away on your Marlboro or Virginia Slim.

Cyclist0084 is offline  
Old 08-01-13, 09:59 AM
  #2  
Banned.
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 1,034

Bikes: 1982 Fuji Supreme, Specialized 2012 Roubaix Compact. 1981? Raleigh Reliant mixte, Velo Orange Campeur (in progress)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Perhaps the local laws require children to wear helmets, while (rightfully) allowing adults to retain their right to choose?
PlanoFuji is offline  
Old 08-01-13, 10:17 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
MEversbergII's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Lexington Park, Maryland
Posts: 1,262

Bikes: Current: Origami Crane 8, Trek 1200 Former: 2012 Schwinn Trailway

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 112 Post(s)
Liked 23 Times in 19 Posts
That's how it is here - once you hit 17 it's up to you.

M.
MEversbergII is offline  
Old 08-01-13, 10:47 AM
  #4  
Señor Member
 
Wilfred Laurier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 5,066
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 649 Post(s)
Liked 292 Times in 215 Posts
in ontario
children requires helmets
while adults are free

i usually wear my helmet when out with my kids
but sometimes i dont

everything in moderation
Wilfred Laurier is offline  
Old 08-01-13, 10:56 AM
  #5  
2 Fat 2 Furious
 
contango's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: England
Posts: 3,996

Bikes: 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Comp Disc, 2009 Specialized Tricross Sport RIP

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 1 Post
I guess if parents don't regard a helmet as being useful but the law says a child must wear one they follow the law.

If they can only afford one helmet they may put their child before themselves, especially if there's a law requiring children to wear helmets that doesn't apply to adults.

Either way they'll struggle to persuade their children to wear a helmet from the point the children come to the conclusion that helmets aren't cool. I see loads of children in school uniform riding a bike with their helmet hanging from the handlebars.
__________________
"For a list of ways technology has failed to improve quality of life, press three"
contango is offline  
Old 08-01-13, 02:01 PM
  #6  
An un-oiled squeaky wheel
 
kaisersling's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NJ
Posts: 480

Bikes: 2013 Wilier Triestina Gran Turismo, Mercian King of Mercia (Floppy); Fuji 500X; GT backwoods; Tour de Suisse; Diamond Back Interval

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Contradiction! Whether your kids are with you or not, you should be wearing one as an example. They will know once they see the accident report or your new bald spot....or grey matter on the ground. I do agree with your overall message however.
kaisersling is offline  
Old 08-01-13, 03:31 PM
  #7  
ouate de phoque
 
dramiscram's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: La Prairie, Qc, Canada
Posts: 1,781

Bikes: Bianchi, Nakamura,Opus

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I agree with the OP: the kids will automatically do it if you give a good example.

With everything, not just helmets.
dramiscram is offline  
Old 08-01-13, 11:23 PM
  #8  
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,788
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Myob.
DX-MAN is offline  
Old 08-01-13, 11:49 PM
  #9  
Cycle Year Round
 
CB HI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Honolulu, HI
Posts: 13,644
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1316 Post(s)
Liked 92 Times in 59 Posts
Oh my, lots of people here who have never had a soft drink in front of their kids. Glad none of you drink any alcohol either. I am especially happy that none of you have ever exceeded the speed limit while motoring.
__________________
Land of the Free, Because of the Brave.
CB HI is offline  
Old 08-02-13, 12:42 AM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Bay Area, Calif.
Posts: 7,239
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 659 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts
Originally Posted by IndianaRecRider
Now I'll be the first to admit that I hardly ever wear a helmet, but when my son was younger and was staying with me on weekends and we would ride together, I made sure we both had our helmets on. Wanted to set a good example for him.
I don't really understand the OP's viewpoint. If he feels that helmet wearing is actually important or even necessary for safety while bike riding then I don't see why he usually rides without one.

OTOH, if his view is that bike riding is sufficiently safe without a helmet or that helmets don't increase safety significantly then I don't see why he considers the wearing of one to be "setting a good example" and denigrates parents who don't do so.
prathmann is offline  
Old 08-02-13, 05:21 AM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Northern NY...Brownville
Posts: 2,571

Bikes: Specialized Aethos, Specialized Diverge Comp E5

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 241 Post(s)
Liked 454 Times in 265 Posts
I also bubble wrap my kids...just in case...sheesh...tea cup kids club...
Kai Winters is offline  
Old 08-02-13, 09:58 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Allentown, Pennsylvania
Posts: 780

Bikes: 2018 Lynskey Cooper CX; 2007 Cannondale F4

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 368 Post(s)
Liked 155 Times in 64 Posts
Leading by example is definitely one of the best ways of teaching children, though it's not the only way. I remember my dad wearing a bike helmet when my sister and I were kids, so as to encourage us to wear ours. But he also smoked while insisting that smoking was bad. Then again, he tried to quit smoking a few times while we were kids, and every time he did, my mom practically begged him to smoke a cigarette again because he got so cranky and abrasive after a day!

Btw I've never smoked a single cigarette, because it stuck with me how hopelessly dependent my dad had become on them. So sometimes learning by others' clearly evident mistakes is just as effective.

Last edited by General Geoff; 08-02-13 at 10:00 AM. Reason: typo
General Geoff is offline  
Old 08-02-13, 10:12 AM
  #13  
ouate de phoque
 
dramiscram's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: La Prairie, Qc, Canada
Posts: 1,781

Bikes: Bianchi, Nakamura,Opus

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Kai Winters
I also bubble wrap my kids...just in case...sheesh...tea cup kids club...
I wrap myself in bubble wrap but it's not to give the kids a good example, it's to have some fun on saturday nights... oups! wrong forum, sorry!
dramiscram is offline  
Old 08-02-13, 10:42 AM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
rebel1916's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 3,138
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 67 Post(s)
Liked 83 Times in 44 Posts
One of the most important lessons to teach children is how to mind your own beeswax.
rebel1916 is offline  
Old 08-02-13, 12:23 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: South shore, L.I., NY
Posts: 6,882

Bikes: Flyxii FR322, Cannondale Topstone, Miyata City Liner, Specialized Chisel, Specialized Epic Evo

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3238 Post(s)
Liked 2,085 Times in 1,181 Posts
Riding on a bike path one day, I saw exactly what you describe, Father - no helmet, kids with.

As I rode up alongside, I commented that the father should wear a helmet, as at least HE's protected. If Dad dies, kids are screwed, if kids die, Dad (and Mom) can alway's have more.

In retrospective, this was the wrong way to phrase it, judging by the response.
Steve B. is offline  
Old 08-02-13, 12:41 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Gaseous Cloud around Uranus
Posts: 3,741
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 38 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 11 Times in 7 Posts
We are suppose to be the parent.

Theirs is not to wonder why,theirs is to do.....they'll have plenty of time for wondering later.

Last edited by Booger1; 08-02-13 at 12:52 PM.
Booger1 is offline  
Old 08-02-13, 12:55 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Gaseous Cloud around Uranus
Posts: 3,741
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 38 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 11 Times in 7 Posts
I smoked in front of my kids,still do.....None of my kids smoke.......everytime they see me smoke,their butt hurts... I used to reward them with food but the drooling got out of hand.....
Booger1 is offline  
Old 08-02-13, 12:59 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
wphamilton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Alpharetta, GA
Posts: 15,280

Bikes: Nashbar Road

Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2934 Post(s)
Liked 341 Times in 228 Posts
Maybe the parents, after studying the matter have determined that the danger is overstated and are teaching their children that it's ok to be self-reliant and that as adults you don't always have to meekly obey the instructions of strangers. Perhaps the parents are right, and you are mistaken.

Best to mind our own on business.
wphamilton is offline  
Old 08-02-13, 01:00 PM
  #19  
Banned.
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Uncertain
Posts: 8,651
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
As it happens, helmets make sense for young children, much less so for adults. Kids learning to ride are much more likely to simply fall off and have the sort of low-speed falls onto the ground that helmets might be some use for. And in my view, teaching kids that when they get older, and have demonstrated that they can operate a bike competently, they can exercise their own discretion about helmet-wearing, is an excellent approach.

It goes without saying that if you approached me and told me I should be wearing a helmet, you'd find that there are plenty of things that are more dangerous than going bare-headed. ****.
chasm54 is offline  
Old 08-02-13, 02:46 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 14,277
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
I always wear a helmet whether I am riding with my kids or not as I am klutz and momentary lapses in concentration tend to bode ill for me.
However, +10 to myob.
DataJunkie is offline  
Old 08-02-13, 08:02 PM
  #21  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I think wearing helmet for the safety purpose is really important, you need to realize the value of life so it's good for you to take care and live a healthy life.
EllaCadell is offline  
Old 08-02-13, 08:12 PM
  #22  
___________
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 216
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by dramiscram
I agree with the OP: the kids will automatically do it if you give a good example.

With everything, not just helmets.
Yes, this is exactly it. Kids think their parents are super-duper-cool and want nothing more than to emulate them in every respect. I expect nothing less than a sea change in the younger generation, due to our vigilance against this blatant hypocrisy.
FatherAlabaster is offline  
Old 08-02-13, 08:19 PM
  #23  
Rhapsodic Laviathan
 
Jax Rhapsody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Louisville KY
Posts: 1,003

Bikes: Rideable; 83 Schwinn High Sierra. Two cruiser, bmx bike, one other mtb, three road frames, one citybike.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 222 Post(s)
Liked 123 Times in 91 Posts
Im grown, i dont need to be told to wear a helmet. Im not going to wear one.
Jax Rhapsody is offline  
Old 08-02-13, 10:03 PM
  #24  
Been Around Awhile
 
I-Like-To-Bike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Burlington Iowa
Posts: 29,973

Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 1,536 Times in 1,045 Posts
Originally Posted by dramiscram
I agree with the OP: the kids will automatically do it if you give a good example.

With everything, not just helmets.
Kids will automatically follow their parents' good example in everything they do? Well I'll be switched!
I-Like-To-Bike is offline  
Old 08-02-13, 10:07 PM
  #25  
Been Around Awhile
 
I-Like-To-Bike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Burlington Iowa
Posts: 29,973

Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 1,536 Times in 1,045 Posts
Originally Posted by Steve B.
Riding on a bike path one day, I saw exactly what you describe, Father - no helmet, kids with.

As I rode up alongside, I commented that the father should wear a helmet, as at least HE's protected. If Dad dies, kids are screwed, if kids die, Dad (and Mom) can alway's have more.

In retrospective, this was the wrong way to phrase it, judging by the response.
How much time did you spend in the hospital after the response?
I-Like-To-Bike is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.