an excuse to post my own...
an excuse to post my own...
A climbing video with an appropriate song playing at a low enough volume to allow the viewer to hear ride audio would be alright, but there aren't too many of those around. For climbing I still prefer raw video.
The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall. - Vince Lombardi
I can't count the times that I've invited riders on a local mountain climb only to hear "I'll go if Gina goes" (Gina's my wife) If I ask them to join me alone, they don't. If I post a video of myself climbing, low views. If I post a video of my wife climbing, it's surely going to get more views. She's not a fast climber but like I said, not eveybody is interested in that. Some just want to see her suffer. Some because they know her, some to see if hse makes it, some because they want to see her succeed as hope for themselves on the climb, Some because she's female, for whatever reason, but it's not because she climbs like a serious climber.
I know you aren't interested in view count but if you were to post a video of yourself climbing and suffering, you'd get a ton of views, ideal weight or not, serious speed or not. Especially a female huffing and puffing, tears in eyes, sweating and snot from the nose in an all out effort, heck, you'd be a legend on the forums!
But that's just me. If I make a video, I hope that others will watch it eventhough mine are mainly used to document my recreational style rides.
I did have a friend tell me once that if I posted a video of me freight training uphill (breathing hard), I would get a ton of views 'cause people love that stuff. From what you're saying I guess that's true.
Here's an example of my climbing speed from when I weighed 185 pounds back in August. This is the same climb from the descent video:
Last edited by freighttraininguphill; 02-03-11 at 01:18 AM. Reason: just thought of something
I'm a Clyde rider (about 245 lbs in the video) so my climbing is ok, this video is 2200 ft in 8 miles in 1:02 6% avrge grade (just so you know why I'm huffing and puffing). I think some of my friends only watch my stuff to see if I make the climbs.
I know you don't like music videos but watch the first 30 seconds. If you did a video similar to this, you kill them in ratings music or no music! Embed the video and hope that one of the 3 youtube front page selections is of you, big ratings for sure! Post in the forums, bigtime views!
What you said about videos of female cyclists suffering on hills being popular explains why I got some stares on the way up. When I watched my video later I saw two examples of this. The first one was a couple making out on the Rainbow Bridge. They turned around to stare at me when I was 20 feet away. I saw them just in time to cut down on the heavy breathing, but I'm sure they must have heard me coming
The second time was when I was passing by some parked cars near the top of the mountain. I had cut down on the heavy breathing somewhat just so anyone within earshot wouldn't think I was dying This guy was sitting on the edge of his truck bed preparing some rock climbing gear. He turned around when I was 30 feet away and stared at me the whole time he was in camera range. Funny stuff!
My problem with shooting cycling videos is that I sometimes get a lot of wind blowing right into the camera's speaker that tends to overload the speaker; the end result has a "nails on the chalkboard" quality and does not sound anything like the sounds of real riding.
"I want to matter. I want to count. When I hear the children sing, 'Jesus Loves Me,' I hope he does. I really hope he does."-Ben Haden
By the way, you seem like a Strong Climber. You said you were 245 pounds in the last video you posted, yet you were able to go 10 mph up that climb. Dayum! I will be happy when I can go 8 mph up climbs I go 5 mph up now.
Plus I live 3 miles from the mountains. We have this long climb, 21 miles (5000ft gain) as a backyard playground so I get lots of practice. I'm the lil orange guy in the pic haha!
GMR (Glendora Mountain Rd)
0210E by gulpxtreme, on Flickr
Couple of the rides
Bear by gulpxtreme, on Flickr
onyxsummit by gulpxtreme, on Flickr
Be honest. Should I bother or not? I'm not going to do it if it's going to offend most people here. I'm sure I've already done enough of that already.
Do it! I don't think anyone is ever offended by someone posting a video fo raw suffering. You posted your opinion about no liking music vids and I voiced my opinion that not everyone was the same, some like them, some don't, can't please everyone.
But I will add it is much better to be a person that contributes material to the forums/boards than to be one that sits back and criticizes the contributing efforts of those that do.
To be clear, not speaking of you. But there are plenty of people on "every" forum that sit back and bash pictures/videos/material etc posted by others but won't post any of theirown. You know the type. Post a picture and they are the first to say, you ar funny looking". Ask for their pic but they are too scared to post it. Those that say you are a slow climber but themselves have never climbed anything bigger than a fwy ovepass.
IMO, a video is like a song. You made it, posted it in it's original form. Others may try to make the song but will never match the original singer and the way the song was meant to be sung whether it's a number one hit single or not.
I say do it, I will only applaud your work. Some vids are meant to be raw, some are meant to be music. You choose, you are the creator!
Matter of fact, I got a thread in another bike forum where I post my encounters with local riders. Highly viewed thread and my blog. With your permission, I'd post the video as a special guest appearance haha! The vieweres of my blog love climbing and many of the thead viewers. I bet that would add to the view count of your video. Not that you care about view count but a female assaulting a climb, good material and people (many female) riders want to see that. Heck, a special guest appearance climb video would bring more views to my blog too hahahaha!
Last edited by Mr. Beanz; 02-03-11 at 04:57 PM.
Go ahead and post it wherever you want. Just give me a link to the other forums so I can read people's reactions. That's part of the fun!
By the way, another reason I am normally hesitant to post any kind of music is because of those ridiculous copyright rules. A few years ago I had another YouTube channel with all kinds of different material, not just cycling. I posted a bunch of videos of Christmas lights on houses synchronized to music. Guess what happened? I got a copyright strike against my account because of a video showing the lights synchronized to the THX theme. WTF? That's not even music! Once you get a copyright strike on your account it stays there. If you get one more, YouTube can terminate your account. Sucks!
And even if you chose not to post it here, I will post it in the other forum and my blog with permission, it's up to you. But I'm sure many will enjoy it!
But even so, I just learned lastweek that there is a way around the copyrights....dispute it, then copy and paste a "no rights abuse" type statement, then yt will clear the video and music. I have the statement and procedure as well as a few videos on youtube that show how to work around the issue. I just used two vids lastweek that were disabled. The statement has to do with not using the video to make money and some other stuff blahblah blah.
It only takes about 2 mintues to do the dipsute claim once you try it!
I figured you already knew about the copyright BS. I just wanted to share my experience with it. They didn't just disable my audio, they disabled the whole video! Of course this was years ago and their policies have changed.
One is raw and the other Rolling stones music.
I only use a small amount of raw footage. Some interviews with locals then the ride music videos. I could use more raw footage but I can only stand to hear myself huff and puff for a very short time.
Since you like to climb, you may like my videos that are titled "GMR". (Glendora Mountian Road) Anything that says Gina on GMR is my wife suffering on the climb.
Not sure if you are viewing the blog (link below) or the youtube channel. If you go directly to youtube, it's under "mrbeanz63".
Prime example of what I mentioned earlier. My solo climb video 100. Gina's name on the video 200....your will be new poster, bigger view count!!
This is my favorite of Gina climbing. Music but I like the music and think it matches the ride. (Mr Mister Broken Wings) Slow 8 mile 2200 ft climb.
little note: The gal in the yellow has a real nice GMR blog. Link in my blog to the right of the page.
Last edited by Mr. Beanz; 02-03-11 at 11:33 PM.