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Old 02-10-11, 11:23 PM   #1
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Some peculiar questions on cycling apparels

First, I would like to know where I can purchase Japanese Pearl Izumi products?

Second, this might be a bit weird, but bare with me. When you guys and/or girls wear your cycling shorts/tights, do you guys/girls wear underwear underneath it? I'm asking this because I have no idea if I should be wearing underwear or not since I'm going to start wearing cycling shorts/tights for the first time.
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a..maybe Japan?
b. no
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a..maybe Japan?
b. no
Forgot to mention, I'm not in or from Japan and I don't know anyone there. So, maybe anyone would know or a website/LBS that can order them?

Anyway, concerning the underwear and shorts thing, mind telling me the reason you don't wear them?
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a. pearl izumi can be purchased at almost any bike shop or online store. google pearl izumi and you will see many online dealers. look at rei.com or amazon.com, but everyone sells pearl izumi.

b. underwear seams will cause chalfing. Bike shorts are designed to have flat seams and avoid seams in critial areas (like where you sit) this decrease the chances of irritation.
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B. No, absolutely not! Aside from the painful chafing, there's the wicking issue.
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Thanks for the info on the underwear part, looks like no underwear it is.

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a. pearl izumi can be purchased at almost any bike shop or online store. google pearl izumi and you will see many online dealers. look at rei.com or amazon.com, but everyone sells pearl izumi.
I do know Pearl Izumi product is sold everywhere, but I'm specifically looking for their Japanese line of products, which is not normally available in the US because they're different and independent from their US branch. By the way, the Japanese Pearl Izumi product looks and feel so much better. Ironically they're the only product that fit perfectly on me.
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you might try the ebay Japan server.
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Tried both regular Ebay and Ebay Japa. No luck on both.

Looks like I'll have to wait until next year when I hit up Japan again to get anything.
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Now on the shorts- Try before you buy- and that goes for all clothing .

I use a store in London and they carry a good range in clothing. I may decide on two or three different shorts (Or Bibs in my case) and I try them on- find one that I like the feel of or they do fit better. That is the first stage.

Second stage is back to the racks and take 3 pairs of my decided bibs in the size that I have chosen and try them all on. One pair will fit better.
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A- Are you familiar with aerotech designs? They make some pretty sweet bike clothes in the US and they stock all sizes from very small to very very large. Good quality and good prices. Note: I have no affiliation with them other than as a satisfied repeat customer.

B- Nope. As others have mentioned, the primary benefit of bike shorts is a lack of seams in inconvenient places.
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Stupid question -- why do you want Pearl Izumi from Japan? You can buy PI stuff everywhere.
http://www.nashbar.com/bikes//Catalo...rm=pearl+izumi

http://www.performancebike.com/bikes...rm=pearl+izumi

http://www.biketiresdirect.com/pearl-izumi

http://www.jensonusa.com/store/brand...arl+Izumi.aspx

http://www.pricepoint.com/thumb/43-B...parel-True.htm

Wearing underwear defeats the purpose of the padding in cycling shorts.
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Now on the shorts- Try before you buy- and that goes for all clothing .

I use a store in London and they carry a good range in clothing. I may decide on two or three different shorts (Or Bibs in my case) and I try them on- find one that I like the feel of or they do fit better. That is the first stage.

Second stage is back to the racks and take 3 pairs of my decided bibs in the size that I have chosen and try them all on. One pair will fit better.
Please note: When trying on bicycle shorts, the same rules as swimsuits applies...KEEP THE UNDERWEAR ON
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Reason is, they're a better fit because I'm Asian and they're Asian size, which is the most important of all. Anyway, they also look a hell lot cooler than the US versions and the material is not as cheap.
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Reason is, they're a better fit because I'm Asian and they're Asian size, which is the most important of all. Anyway, they also look a hell lot cooler than the US versions and the material is not as cheap.
Have you looked at ordering from European websites. Seems Europeans and Americans aren't the same size.
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Have you looked at ordering from European websites. Seems Europeans and Americans aren't the same size.
I was recommended that, and considered it before, but I don't know their size and haven't tried them on before. So, unless I've seen the physical product before, don't think I would consider making the purchase. By the way, I do own a Japanese Pearl Izumi jersey, and I know I've said this before, but it looks damn cool and is way better quality.
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Clothing size conversions ... different countries do have different sizing. I'm 1-2 sizes larger here in Australia than I was in Canada
http://www.onlineconversion.com/clothing.htm
http://www.sizeguide.net/

And the Japanese Pearl Izumi ...
http://www.pearlizumi.co.jp/
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Thanks for the site on size conversion, but I'm the paranoid type that actually don't like getting clothes unless I know that they will fit me, I'm comfortable in it, and knows how the material is when I feel it.

As for the Japanese Pearl Izumi site, it's impossible to order them from their site because they don't ship outside of Japan. Which is the reason I'm asking if anyone knows where I can get it either online or from a LBS(NYC).
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Maybe a Japanese LBS?

Are there bike shops in Chinatown?

(making guesses here...)
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I'm pretty sure they sell the same products in Taiwan as they do in Japan. If you can tell me exactly what you're looking for I can check the shops around here. I also know that I can find clothing to fit me here, and I'm an overweight 5'9" Caucasion American.
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I don't mean to call out the OP but I have to wonder how are you so sure that the foreign bike shorts are so much of a better fit for you (just like all Americans are not the same size/shape, I feel pretty sure that not all Japanese people share the same proportions either) and of better quality than the stuff here in the US if you've never even worn bike shorts before? Not trying to hate, just trying to understand why you need these exact (and obviously difficult to find) shorts if you haven't even tried the local offerings yet?
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I don't mean to call out the OP but I have to wonder how are you so sure that the foreign bike shorts are so much of a better fit for you (just like all Americans are not the same size/shape, I feel pretty sure that not all Japanese people share the same proportions either).
Exactly. Also the Assos brands has some of the best materials IMO.
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Try a Japanese mail-order company?

When there are Japanese parts I can't find in the U.S., I usually try http://www.alexscycle.com/

I know they have some clothing, haven't shopped it.
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I don't mean to call out the OP but I have to wonder how are you so sure that the foreign bike shorts are so much of a better fit for you (just like all Americans are not the same size/shape, I feel pretty sure that not all Japanese people share the same proportions either) and of better quality than the stuff here in the US if you've never even worn bike shorts before? Not trying to hate, just trying to understand why you need these exact (and obviously difficult to find) shorts if you haven't even tried the local offerings yet?
I'm actually specifically looking for their Jersey/outerwear and I have tried their products(their Japanese line) before. I did say that it will be my first time starting to wear cycling shorts/tights, but that doesn't mean I have not tried them on before, nor does that conclude that I don't know my size and fit. In terms of quality, I only compared to the US Pearl Izumi line, not something else. The reason I say this is because I do own a Japanese Pearl Izumi Jersey(got this in HK),

And yes, people do come in different proportions, but Asians in generals are thinner and/or smaller in size compared to westerners. And you don't know my size either. Japanese Pearl Izumi product cuts are slightly more tapered and not as long compared to most of the cycling apparels sold in the US.

Also, thank you for saying that it's hard to find, if it wasn't, I wouldn't be asking......

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Try a Japanese mail-order company?

When there are Japanese parts I can't find in the U.S., I usually try http://www.alexscycle.com/

I know they have some clothing, haven't shopped it.
Thank you for the information and I don't really know of any other sites and/or mail-order company. Sadly they don't have much in apparel selection. :'( By any chance, do you know any other sites that import or sells from Japan? Which is the information I'm looking for.

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One of the reasons you're having a hard time locating the Japanese version of a product in the US is (quite likely) because the US version of the product is being sold in the US, and there are probably rules and regulations about bringing in a version from another country when a version of that product already exists there.

In other words, if PI-Japan were still the only place to get PI stuff (PI started in Japan), the US would likely be importing Japanese PI products from Japan. And that's how it was between 1981 and 1989 (or 1991?). Then "in the summer of 1991, the company gained the license and distribution rights to essentially the entire world with the exception of Asia." Asia would have been excepted because I would presume that PI-Japan has the licence and distribution rights in Asia.

http://www.pearlizumi.com/publish/co...ho_we_are.html


And yes, the produce produced by PI-Japan could indeed be quite different from the product made by PI-US ... it all depends where they are actually made, material availability, demand, etc.
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Thank you for the information and I don't really know of any other sites and/or mail-order company. Sadly they don't have much in apparel selection. :'( By any chance, do you know any other sites that import or sells from Japan? Which is the information I'm looking for.
Sorry, they're the only Japanese shop I use. But if you want something they don't have on the web, try emailing them, they can do special orders.
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