Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 18 of 18
  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Northern Nevada
    Posts
    3,747
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    OK, sorry, call me a grump, but I just can't wave at any more cyclists.

    I did the same 25-mile round-trip commute by bike 75 or so times a year between 1979 and 2007, when I retired. When I started, I might ride all week without seeing another cyclist; On the rare occasions I did, it would be one guy, usually with a beard. We'd wave like fools, talk to each other, carry on like reunited brothers.
    When Greg Lemond started winning Tours, more riders showed up. He grew up here, got some early sponsorshop from the local shops, and he was popular. Eventually I saw maybe half a dozen riders a week, or three in a group on Saturday.
    Things slacked off for awhile, but then Lance came along. Cycling surged, and surged again when the Baby Boomer joggers gave up running to save their knees. I nodded grimly and acknowledged everybody.
    Last Sunday we had a pretty nice day, and I rode most of the old commute route. I saw FIFTY-SEVEN riders, an average of about 2.3 a mile.
    I wish everybody well. Enjoy your ride. But I'm not waving anymore.

  2. #2
    Riding twobadfish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Bend, Oregon
    My Bikes
    Motobecane Fantom Cross Pro; Motobecane Nemesis Pro
    Posts
    1,603
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

  3. #3
    Banned. Mr. Beanz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Upland Ca
    My Bikes
    Lemond Chambery/Cannondale R-900/Trek 8000 MTB/Burley Duet tandem
    Posts
    20,031
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    I don't mind riders that don't say hi. But I do mind the rides that don't respond when you say hi, smile, wave, but then want to suck your wheel when you pass them. Just don't be one of those.

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Seattle, Washington, USA
    My Bikes
    2009 Chris Boedeker custom, 1988 Tommasini Prestige, 2007 Bill Davidson custom, 1985 Univega Gran Turismo; 1988 Specialized Stumpjumper
    Posts
    6,920
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I see similar numbers of riders on many of my rides in the summer; if I waved at them all I'd break my arm.

    In the winter, when it's rainy and cold, and only a few of us are out, I try to wave. Unless my hands are frozen to the handlebars.

  5. #5
    Bike ≠ Car ≠ Ped. BarracksSi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Washington, DC
    My Bikes
    Some bikes. Hell, they're all the same, ain't they?
    Posts
    13,857
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    OP, welcome to my world Maybe I'll try counting how many other cyclists I see when I go for a decent distance.

  6. #6
    Senior Member Northwestrider's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Gig Harbor, WA
    My Bikes
    Surly Long Haul Trucker, Gary Fisher Hoo Koo E Koo, Dahon Mu P 24 , Bacchetta Strada, Rodriguez Tandem
    Posts
    2,115
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It's just like when I was young and learning how to drive on back country roads, everyone would wave as there were few of us on the road. Now while driving those same roads few if any will wave. Its a function of numbers it seems.

  7. #7
    Senior member Dan Burkhart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Oakville Ontario
    Posts
    4,911
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Velo Dog View Post
    I did the same 25-mile round-trip commute by bike 75 or so times a year between 1979 and 2007, when I retired. When I started, I might ride all week without seeing another cyclist; On the rare occasions I did, it would be one guy, usually with a beard. We'd wave like fools, talk to each other, carry on like reunited brothers.
    When Greg Lemond started winning Tours, more riders showed up. He grew up here, got some early sponsorshop from the local shops, and he was popular. Eventually I saw maybe half a dozen riders a week, or three in a group on Saturday.
    Things slacked off for awhile, but then Lance came along. Cycling surged, and surged again when the Baby Boomer joggers gave up running to save their knees. I nodded grimly and acknowledged everybody.
    Last Sunday we had a pretty nice day, and I rode most of the old commute route. I saw FIFTY-SEVEN riders, an average of about 2.3 a mile.
    I wish everybody well. Enjoy your ride. But I'm not waving anymore.
    Is it less trouble to count than to wave? Not sayin' I blame ya.
    Gearhubs demystified and other cool stuff.


    Rule #12: The correct number of bikes to own is n+1

  8. #8
    Dog is my co-pilot 2manybikes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    My Bikes
    2 many
    Posts
    13,729
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Waving or not waving means nothing.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    No Va but ride also in So Md
    My Bikes
    Cervelo SLC-SL, Guru Photon, Waterford, Specialized CX
    Posts
    8,494
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart View Post
    Is it less trouble to count than to wave? Not sayin' I blame ya.
    I saw FIFTY-SEVEN riders, an average of about 2.3 a mile.
    Yep. Grumpy with too much time on your hands - especially the distance calculation aprt
    You're just trying to start an argument to show how smart you are.

  10. #10
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    4,793
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Never encountered that problem; most times, I get ignored, anyway, so I rarely acknowledge another rider unless he/she does first....

    Your post left me wondering, though -- are you pedaling so hard that a series of little waves of the hand is too much effort? DAAAMMMMNN...!

  11. #11
    Single-serving poster electrik's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Toronto, Canada
    Posts
    5,097
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    If they wave at you and you don't wave back it probably says something. We don't need to call you anything! Haha.

  12. #12
    Bike ≠ Car ≠ Ped. BarracksSi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Washington, DC
    My Bikes
    Some bikes. Hell, they're all the same, ain't they?
    Posts
    13,857
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Honestly, I think waving is silly.

    It's not like we're all overcoming some life-threatening disease or meeting up for the big game. Neither does anyone wave to every walker, driver, or fellow riders on the bus or train. Is the act of waving to other cyclists the same kind of approval-seeking that makes people say, "Hey mom, look at me!"?

    I'm not antisocial, mind you. I'll chat about our bikes or the weather or whatever as we're tooling along. As an example, I got put into contact with a sports physiology clinic because of talking with a stranger during a ride. I'll often try a head nod or just a lift of the finger, or just a "'Mornin'" while we're waiting at a light.

    But, really, most of the time, we're just trying to go somewhere. Bikes become plain ol' transportation devices after a while.

  13. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Northern Nevada
    Posts
    3,747
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Northwestrider View Post
    It's just like when I was young and learning how to drive on back country roads, everyone would wave as there were few of us on the road. Now while driving those same roads few if any will wave. Its a function of numbers it seems.
    I hadn't thought of that...when I got out of the Army in 1968, I bought an MGB, then traded up to a Fiat 124. Foreign cars were pretty rare in those days, and everybody waved. Then there got to be a kind of hierarchy, where, say, Triumph and MG drivers could wave to each other, and Porsche drivers could wave to Jaguars, but an Austin Healey guy wasn't required to acknowledge a Volkswagen and nobody waved at Renaults.
    Help me out here: When I'm on my old beater Trek, is the waving order different than when I'm on my Atlantis?

  14. #14
    Every lane is a bike lane Chris L's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia - passionfruit capital of the universe!
    Posts
    9,622
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by BarracksSi View Post
    Honestly, I think waving is silly.

    It's not like we're all overcoming some life-threatening disease or meeting up for the big game. Neither does anyone wave to every walker, driver, or fellow riders on the bus or train. Is the act of waving to other cyclists the same kind of approval-seeking that makes people say, "Hey mom, look at me!"?

    I'm not antisocial, mind you. I'll chat about our bikes or the weather or whatever as we're tooling along. As an example, I got put into contact with a sports physiology clinic because of talking with a stranger during a ride. I'll often try a head nod or just a lift of the finger, or just a "'Mornin'" while we're waiting at a light.

    But, really, most of the time, we're just trying to go somewhere. Bikes become plain ol' transportation devices after a while.
    This is about the first sensible post in the thread.

    If you want to wave, go ahead and wave, but if you're doing it expecting a reaction, then you have other issues that you need to resolve before you worry about someone else waving back to you. Get over it.
    "I am never going to flirt with idleness again" - Roy Keane
    "We invite everyone to question the entire culture we take for granted." - Manic Street Preachers.
    My blog.
    My bike tours. Japan tour page under construction.

  15. #15
    Senior Member JimF22003's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Northern VA
    My Bikes
    2008 Trek Madone 5.5, 2009 Cervelo R3SL tdf edition, Cervelo R5 with Di2
    Posts
    2,448
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    This is the only time I find waving annoying: when I'm going the opposite direction from a largish group ride that is spread out over 5 or 10 miles, and they're riding alone or in small groups: they always look surprised to see me and I get a lot of happy waves. I do the 2-finger thing out of courtesy, but it gets pretty annoying by the time I work my way back to the stragglers... and for some reason the stragglers seem to be the most enthusiastic wavers
    2009 Cervelo R3SL TdF Edition, Ultegra Di2
    2011 Cervelo R5, DA Di2

  16. #16
    Bianchi Goddess Bianchigirll's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Camp Hill, PA
    My Bikes
    Too many to list here check my signature.
    Posts
    20,153
    Mentioned
    31 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    I feel bad about it, but I quit waving too. most of the riders I see are either too scared to let go of the brifters on their super stiff carbon fiber steeds or are too busy training for the world championships and never wave back.
    Bianchis '87 Sport SX, '90 Proto (2), '91 Boarala 'cross, '93 Project 3, '88 Trofeo, '86 Volpe, '89 Axis, '79 Mixte SOLD, '99 Mega Pro XL Ti, '97 Ti Megatube, , '90 something Vento 603,

    Others but still loved,; '80 RIGI, '80 Batavus Professional, '87 Cornelo, '86 Bertoni (sold), '09 Motobecane SS, '98 Hetchins M.O., '09 K2 Mainframe, '89 Trek 2000, '?? Jane Doe (still on the drawing board), '90ish Haro Escape

  17. #17
    Senior member Dan Burkhart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Oakville Ontario
    Posts
    4,911
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    [QUOTE=JimF22003;12222139]This is the only time I find waving annoying: when I'm going the opposite direction from a largish group ride that is spread out over 5 or 10 miles, and they're riding alone or in small groups: they always look surprised to see me and I get a lot of happy waves. I do the 2-finger thing out of courtesy, but it gets pretty annoying by the time I work my way back to the stragglers... and for some reason the stragglers seem to be the most enthusiastic wavers [/QUOTE]

    Of course. That's because we're just out for the joy of the ride, not some foolish competition.
    Gearhubs demystified and other cool stuff.


    Rule #12: The correct number of bikes to own is n+1

  18. #18
    Senior Member BlazingPedals's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Middle of da Mitten
    My Bikes
    Trek 7500, RANS V-Rex, Optima Baron, Velokraft NoCom, M-5 Carbon Highracer, homebuilt recumbent
    Posts
    7,157
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart View Post
    Of course. That's because we're just out for the joy of the ride, not some foolish competition.
    Ooh, do I detect a bit of "if you're going faster than me you must be a racer-boy" attitude?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •