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Old 04-15-11, 04:38 PM   #1
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All around gravel/road bike

Helping out my roommate here.

Bikes he is looking at are:
Bianchi Volpe
Motobecane Outlaw

I am trying to suggest the Motobecane Fantom Cross over the Outlaw after noticing it is full 105 grouppo while the Outlaw comes with disc brakes it is mostly Tiagra and is $95 more expensive.

He wants to use it to kind of go anywhere, he sees my Vassago Fisticuff and wants to ride it like I do which is basically everywhere including singletrack. I know the Volpe is going to be a different animal compared to these other two options. But its from out main one man show LBS and the guy will take care of him forever if he buys it. I don't have much to say on the Volpe as I don't know much about it nor see any reviews on it.

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I never tried either bike, but Tiagra is OK and your friend might be dismayed by what a number the gravel dust would do to his rims.
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The Volpe is a decent bike, but it's low grade components like the Outlaw. I think I'd go with your suggestion of the Fantom Cross. Change of tires and it'd be a decent road bike as well.
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Yeah I did not even think of the rims on any of the sets, I don't think he will actually do singletrack but gravel is definately in the cards.

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/cyclo.htm
Hate to throw another one in the mix but it's actually cheaper with 105 and a Ultegra RD.
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Yeah I did not even think of the rims on any of the sets, I don't think he will actually do singletrack but gravel is definately in the cards.

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/cyclo.htm
Hate to throw another one in the mix but it's actually cheaper with 105 and a Ultegra RD.
I am not talking about the quality of the wheels you get for the money. When you ride on gravel roads, the bike and especially the rims get covered with a fine dust. Then the grit causes the rims to get slowly eaten away by the brake pads. Disc brakes are further from the dust, they're stainless steel which is a lot harder than aluminum rims, and they are cheap and easy to replace.
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Anything wit a wide tire should work fine
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The Volpe is a decent bike, but it's low grade components like the Outlaw. I think I'd go with your suggestion of the Fantom Cross. Change of tires and it'd be a decent road bike as well.

Tires are going to make more difference than anything else, so buy the bike that's the better deal/better fit/better color (whatever's important to him), then put on tires suited to the purpose. I've ridden several of my road bikes on singletrack. It's no fun on 23mm tires, but throw on a pair of 35mm cyclocross tires and you're in business. WARNING: Check to see what tires will fit each bike. I think both of those have room for good-sized rubber, but I'm not sure.
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Tires are going to make more difference than anything else, so buy the bike that's the better deal/better fit/better color (whatever's important to him), then put on tires suited to the purpose. I've ridden several of my road bikes on singletrack. It's no fun on 23mm tires, but throw on a pair of 35mm cyclocross tires and you're in business. WARNING: Check to see what tires will fit each bike. I think both of those have room for good-sized rubber, but I'm not sure.
Yeah, but I've owned a Volpe and it was not my cup of tea for the road. But the Fantom Cross would be fine for both road and trail/dirt road as with 23/25 tires, it'd be a decent enough road bike and you could also fit 35-38's on it without much trouble.
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