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    Wife's first crash since learning to ride last year

    Last year, my wife learned how to ride a bike, and other than a few ungraceful dismounts and not quite getting out of a pedal soon enough once, she hasn't had a crash.

    That changed this weekend, when in a lapse of judgement, we went riding with a friend who thinks the biking laws are stupid. We thought we'd be safe as we were in a bike trail, so didn't have to worry about keeping him from salmoning, etc. But then he decides to grab her handlebar as she's riding. She said that she felt herself leaning, like he was (probably without realizing it), tilting her bike his way. She overcompensated, and they both went down. Other than a few bruises and soreness, she's fine, and fortunately her brand new 7.5 is as well, but he had a $70 repair on his Globe when he badly bent his front wheel. Of course he said she could have kept balanced even with him grabbing the middle of her bar, but he knows she's still not an expert in handling.

    I guess you really never know where the hazards will come from.

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    He grabbed her bar while riding next to her? That would be a moronic move.
    And he doesn't accept responsibility for what happened?
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    That's exactly what happened, though I do think he realizes what he did was wrong and apologized, but at first he said they crashed because she "panicked" to use his word. She's just glad she wasn't riding her Ruby. We took the hybrids knowing he'd be on a cruiser. Though it was funny to watch him try to get up to 20mph when he saw that was the speed limit and pass him.

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    Salmoning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigB View Post
    Salmoning?
    riding on the wrong side of the road fighting the traffic/stream

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    Was he horsing around when he grabbed the handlebar or was there a point?
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    What an idiot! Glad your wife and her bike are OK.

    BTW, I wouldn't ride with somebody that thinks bike laws are stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpeters11 View Post
    But then he decides to grab her handlebar as she's riding.
    He's an idiot.

    Quote Originally Posted by dpeters11 View Post
    at first he said they crashed because she "panicked" to use his word.
    And he's an idiot who thinks bike laws are stupid and an idiot who tried to wiggle out of responsibility for his actions.

    I would never ride with him again.

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    What a meathead.

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    I wouldn't ride with him.

    It is totally irrelevant that she just learned last year. even an experience rider may have crashed. I he had done that to me I would have thrown his bike in the river (I ride by a river) and left him for being such an idiot.

    I have no tolerance for people that do stupid dangerous things that they think are funny.
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    I wonder how some people have made it so far in life without killing themselves off. You should tell him to straighten up and start riding responsibly or you will not ride with him again. When you are going 15-20mph crashing is no joke. Best case scenario is what happened to your wife getting a few bruises and scrapes. Worst case is someone falls wrong and receives a potentially much more severe injury.

    Maybe show him some injury pics of people who have crashed pretty hard. Sounds like he has a disconnect with reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucille View Post
    What an idiot! Glad your wife and her bike are OK.

    BTW, I wouldn't ride with somebody that thinks bike laws are stupid.
    This ^^^^^

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    I've been trying to reform him, but after Saturday, don't think it's possible. On the streets, he rides like a 40 year old teenager, then teases us on the fact that one of our bikes actually has a frame pump and a toolkit, spare tubes, all the unnecessary gadgets and such. I told him that of course we do, it'd be a real bummer to be 20 miles from home or the car and have a blown tire.

    I just have to remember, some cannot be rehabilitated. Overall I think I'll get the last laugh. Last year he said that we wouldn't be riding at all, and he was quite surprised when we suggested a short 20 mile ride. He thought that would be an all day affair.

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    dpeters11, I have a friend like that, unfortunately I'm linked to him as his daughters are my God daughters. Angels must watch over him as he's had several Darwin's Award moments and yet, he still is alive! I did try to get him to buy a motor scooter just so I could sit in the front yard with a camera and a cooler of Red Stripe... you get the drift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpeters11 View Post
    I've been trying to reform him, but after Saturday, don't think it's possible.
    Agree. Life is just too short.
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    I would avoid the dude. I had one guy pull up along my side then slap my brifters while shouting"slow down!". WTF! I had my wife on my wheel and 3 others on a trail next to a steel guard rail. I shouted back and almost beotch slapped him but figured I might end up causing the crash myself. I make it a point to avoid the guy now.

    My wife has made 2 mistakes in the 15 years we have been riding. This is the pic from the last accident. She hit my wheel at 15 mph after slowing at the end of a ride. If she had hit at 18, I'm sure it would have been worse. She got off easy on this one compared to the first time. If I had seen someone intentionally take her down, I would probably more than likely punch someone's face.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    I would avoid the dude. I had one guy pull up along my side then slap my brifters while shouting"slow down!". WTF! I had my wife on my wheel and 3 others on a trail next to a steel guard rail. I shouted back and almost beotch slapped him but figured I might end up causing the crash myself. I make it a point to avoid the guy now.

    My wife has made 2 mistakes in the 15 years we have been riding. This is the pic from the last accident. She hit my wheel at 15 mph after slowing at the end of a ride. If she had hit at 18, I'm sure it would have been worse. She got off easy on this one compared to the first time. If I had seen someone intentionally take her down, I would probably more than likely punch someone's face.



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    I'm afraid I'd have launched myself off my bike into his face. I think I've seen your wife's bruises before, still hurts the second time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpeters11 View Post
    I guess you really never know where the hazards will come from.
    You do now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradtx View Post
    I'm afraid I'd have launched myself off my bike into his face. I think I've seen your wife's bruises before, still hurts the second time around.

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    Yup, I keep it as a reminder on why we need to pay special attention while riding as well as staying away from dopey riders.

    The big bruise was caused by the hb's swinging around and the bar end jabbing her thigh. The opposite leg the the top tube.

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    that fellow would have a permanant limp if he pulled something like that to my wife. I can be a very angry man and just short of turning green, you would not like me when I am angry....


    Hope your wife continues to feel well. Sometimes it takes a bit for those odd little pesky injuries to crop up...

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    She still has some stiffness. I did consider at least making him buy her a new helmet, though she didn't hit it going down.

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    A clout in the nuts will set him right. Or make you feel better. Do not like riding with a$$wipes. Deliberately causing a crash is unforgivable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpeters11 View Post
    Last year, my wife learned how to ride a bike, and other than a few ungraceful dismounts and not quite getting out of a pedal soon enough once, she hasn't had a crash.

    That changed this weekend, when in a lapse of judgement, we went riding with a friend who thinks the biking laws are stupid. We thought we'd be safe as we were in a bike trail, so didn't have to worry about keeping him from salmoning, etc. But then he decides to grab her handlebar as she's riding. She said that she felt herself leaning, like he was (probably without realizing it), tilting her bike his way. She overcompensated, and they both went down. Other than a few bruises and soreness, she's fine, and fortunately her brand new 7.5 is as well, but he had a $70 repair on his Globe when he badly bent his front wheel. Of course he said she could have kept balanced even with him grabbing the middle of her bar, but he knows she's still not an expert in handling.

    I guess you really never know where the hazards will come from.
    Time to find a new riding partner.
    Doing stupid **** happens, but when he says she should have been able to handle it, he is passing his own blame on to her. That's the sign of an irresponsible fool. Its one thing to be a fool... Washington is full of them. But an irresponsible one eventually ends up foisting his consequences onto others, as you've learned.
    This time it was a bike crash - next time, who knows? I wouldn't take him out in my boat, Im sure.
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    Who grabs another persons bars? Does he also grab the wheel as a passenger in a car? I would avoid riding with him

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    Quote Originally Posted by ap1_alan View Post
    Who grabs another persons bars? Does he also grab the wheel as a passenger in a car? I would avoid riding with him
    Yeah, it certainly wasn't what I was expecting. I'm thinking if we want to ride with others, we need to find a newbie friendly group, though we have ridden with two people my wife has met on a women's cycling forum.

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