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Old 10-04-11, 08:43 PM   #1
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which brand of pepper spray for dogs works best

I must be a magnet lately, twice in 3 days almost NAILED by 2 different dogs, today two dog come down this driveway while im climbing a wicked hill, the one was just barking the other had his teeth out and ears back and heading for my calf !!!
I sprayed him with my pepper spray that I got from a mailman, it did NOT stop him right then and he circled around still eyeing my leg, he finally turned and I saw him rolling in the grass...
Maybe the spray was old...what is the best most potent spray ??? I should spray the owners for not having them tied
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Old 10-04-11, 08:46 PM   #2
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Not trying to be a wise a** here but you cant outrun a dog on a bike? Pepper spraying a dog is a bit extreme. I might be biased because I do love dogs but I have been chased by a dog before and I have always just ridden away. I have read here before about guys kicking dogs and trying to hit dogs but to me it is much easier to outrun a dog than to slow down take out your spray and mace the thing. I have never been bitten by a dog and maybe you have or maybe you have a genuine fear of a dog but a bicycle is much faster than any dog on the planet. If you must, slow down spray away, instead of kicking it up a notch and leaving him in your dust.
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im on a bicycle not a motorcycle, and riding up a HUGE hill, I average 17mph but NOT up hill !!! And guess what Chipper, YOU couldnt outrun a dog going up a hill I am not waiting till some a$$hol%s dog rips my leg open in the middle of who know where, I love dogs too but I hope he learned a lesson.Two years ago my wife had a similar thing happen, broke over a hill, tried to out run a fricken mutt, he ran right into the side of her bike, she was thrown, broke her Bell helmet, knocked cold in the middle of the road, lucky her nephew was with her, called the ambulance, took her to the head trama unit at Upstate NY hospital, broken collar bone ( never healed either ) 3 broken ribs,cracked sternum, concussion......
Still think the pepper spray for the poor dog is too much.......NOT ME
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See right away your get all keyboard commando on me Chipper. I couldn't outrun a dog uphill so I would probably just turn around and go downhill. I know you don't think pepper spraying a dog is too much, I said spray away if you gotta,I would never do it, its just one mans opinion. I would hate for you to get bit or even worse like what happened to your wife, that's terrible. I read time and time again about the dog thing here and I think dogs are being overrated, they are attracted to things that are moving and make noise they are not killing machines. Again, do what you must I think everyone should ride safe. Chipper
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I always call animal control and advise them of x un-leashed / restrained dog(s) in the vicinity of blah. Eventually the dogs disappear or only bark.

But any non-aerosol gel / foam should do the trick.
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I love dogs also, but the number of pit mixes that walked around my old town was outrageous. Not the nice pit mixes, but the they wanted to try and fight
Or just look "bad a**" also I don't want to have to get a rabies shot just in case. I would peddle off, but if I had to I would spray or what ever I had to do to get away. Just me though.
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12 gage with peppercorns in the shell?
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honestly, theres more than one type of pepper spray out there, so you need to see how extreme you want to go....me personally, I use a taurus model 856 with ratshot filled with salt. I carry two of those... two with standard ratshot, and 1 with hornady personal defense loads. I carry the hammer down on a empty cylinder. I use a top tube bag and keep the pistol in the right side bag. its a revolver, and beings as the hammer is down on a empty cylinder, the chances of it accidentally going off are infinitesimal, even during a crash. I then have the oppertunity to first warn the dog, then hurt the dog.. then eventually, and only if nessicary, kill the dog.

The resulting empty pistol can then be used as a blunt object.

YMMV.

ETA: Company policy and (i believe) state law require certain personnel to remain armed at all times, both on and off duty. This is my solution, like i said YMMV. I don't want to turn this into a "don't hurt the poor animals you cromag!" rant, my wife is a vet, we love animals in our household. I just love my life, limb and eyesight more.

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As a counterpint to kageones, I say protect yourself first and don't worry about the dog. A cyclist might be able to outrun a smaller dog, but I've seen medium-sized dogs do 35 mph for short bursts. Any dog who attacks a human should be put down! As to what to use... This product shoots a stream, not a spray 22 feet. And it will absolutely stop the attack, unlike pepper spray, which won't even slow a dog down when it's in full attack mode. The product is...


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what our local mailpeople carry always worked for me, halt. a long time back our mailman gave my father one when he was doing some walking for exercise and i started buying it when i was running. i'd carry it on a bike if i was thinking about it, but never had to use it biking. i also liked having sort of as a security blanket. it helped keep that burst of wasted adrenaline down 'cause i knew i wasn't in as much danger hearing a dog bark, seeing it loose or even starting towards me.

i've been bit once. it wasn't even serious, but you still have to worry about pain, infection, rabies.... forget the naysayers. spray that mutt.
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The pepper spray should be used on the OWNER of the dogs!

I urge anyone who is attacked or chased, to also call the police after the incident. Around here, dogs are not allowed to roam free. I would certainly spray if it was the only option to deter an attack.

Owing a pet is not a right, it's a responsibility.

I have security cameras around my house. The neighborhood has learned, that if your dog craps in my yard, and you do not police up, it will be promptly delivered on your front porch.
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Not trying to be a wise a** here but you cant outrun a dog on a bike? Pepper spraying a dog is a bit extreme. I might be biased because I do love dogs but I have been chased by a dog before and I have always just ridden away. I have read here before about guys kicking dogs and trying to hit dogs but to me it is much easier to outrun a dog than to slow down take out your spray and mace the thing. I have never been bitten by a dog and maybe you have or maybe you have a genuine fear of a dog but a bicycle is much faster than any dog on the planet. If you must, slow down spray away, instead of kicking it up a notch and leaving him in your dust.
Sir, a dog chasing a human being simply bicycling, is a public nuisance. It's the type of public nuisance that needs an urgent remedy. Neither pepper spraying nor out-pacing the dog is the proper solution for such a public menace.

What if were a kid on a tricycle?....What if it were a some unsuspecting elderly cyclist?

If the police were to witness this dog and not be able to control it, they would shoot the dog. Owners who are so oblivious to there dogs whereabouts should be heavily fined, jailed, or both, if it can be proven that the dog is loose on a regular basis.

Pepper spray is a very minor and innocuous solution to such a severe problem! IMHO the dog was lucky he didn't get killed. That would be his fate, if he were to ever chase a kid on a bike in my neighborhood.

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I'm an animal lover too...I've owned dogs all my life!

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As a counterpint to kageones, I say protect yourself first and don't worry about the dog. A cyclist might be able to outrun a smaller dog, but I've seen medium-sized dogs do 35 mph for short bursts. Any dog who attacks a human should be put down! As to what to use... This product shoots a stream, not a spray 22 feet. And it will absolutely stop the attack, unlike pepper spray, which won't even slow a dog down when it's in full attack mode. The product is...


Note that it is illegal to use that product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.
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Note that it is illegal to use that product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.
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Note that it is illegal to use that product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.
I Googled the ingredients of this. Not something I would want to spray on an animal. Pepper spay has no long-term effects and should be adequate.

The active ingredients include:

.20% Tetramethrin…. A suspected carcinogen and neuro toxicant
.20% Peremethrin…Carcinogen, endocrine, gastrointestinal, neuro, reproductive & liver toxicant
99.6% Other Ingredients
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I would look into the horns and whistles on the market for this purpose. IDK the name brand of it, but on our group ride a couple of weeks ago, buddy pulls out a canister and hits the button...the dog looked like it hit a brick wall and turned back as quickly as it came. All I heard was air escaping the can.

Be wary of using pepper spray in a group or with a wind. A ride last year came to an abrupt end for several members as one of the lead guys sprayed a dog and the people following got a good dose as well.
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so far only one stupid comment, thanks...Turn around and ride down hill,,,great answer try it Chipper !
I like the .22 idea...I called the dog control officer twice, im going to call the owner tonight, i went by today in my car and stopped to get the house number, this time 3 dogs ran into the road and right to my car door....People are idiots plain and simple..

the stuff I had is HALT and came from a mailman, it didnt stop this dog !!! Well I may have to change my route and I really like the hills here, sucks people can do what they want.....
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I like the .22 idea...I called the dog control officer twice, im going to call the owner tonight, i went by today in my car and stopped to get the house number, this time 3 dogs ran into the road and right to my car door....People are idiots plain and simple..
taurus is a 38 special... but yeah...same concept...
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Halt has worked well for me, as long as I have it on the bike. Get the holder that clips onto your handlebar; they're hard to find for some reason, but well worth it. No fumbling around in a pocket or pack -- that time fumbling would be the time you could possibly stop the dog.

You have noticed that you have to actually HIT the dog with spray, haven't you? In the face or mouth? Every one I've nailed has stopped in his tracks, or at least did a front leg stop/shoulder roll, followed by leaving quickly. You can watch the spray and correct your aim, it's like using a spray with tracer bullets.

The ones you still have to watch out for are the packs that have learned just how far Halt can reach, and circle around until you're not watching the ones behind you. That's when a .22 would be nice...
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actually i thought it was kind of amusing that people were concerned about the bug spray, but not the gun
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I've read a squirt-bottle , with dilute Ammonia , has effect,
But .. will cause eye injury
if not flushed out with lots of plain water.

there is "Bear Spray" as well , maybe it can be found in Hunting category
some times the bear hunts you..


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Horus11B will be advised to call the County Animal Control , and file a Formal Complaint
and a Citation and Court Appearance will be the house owner/ tenant's fate..

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I dont see how that is a stupid comment I said that is what I would do. You say try it? What is so hard about turning around? You seem to want to pick a fight with me over the internet? I will say it again, mace whatever you want, me personally I will ride away or do the unthinkable silly thing and turn aound?! If you wanna get personal pm me I have no problem clearing anything up. Chipper wtf?!
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I called the owner tonight, what a joke, she said " well if you tell me when you are coming by I will make sure they are indoors" I said Lady you dont get it do ya....The LAW IS keep the dog on your property....I told her I and others ride at all times, if it happens again I hope your kids are not too attached to the dog !
Im thru screwing around......I told her to have her husband call me or I will stop by and see him...
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Dog Repellant equals..........one very good squirt gun, Add a mix of 25% water to 75% pure ammonia.

Fasten gun to bike for easy reach then ride off. Aim for nose or the eyes.
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