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Old 10-08-11, 03:35 AM   #1
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Keeping a bike IN the car or truck at all times.

The bike would be in the vehicle at all times, laying flat, on left side,
and ready for emergency or pleasure riding.

I am thinking a commuter, hybrid, or mtb, and the first encumbrance seems
to be Pedals. Are there folding pedals that are reliable. What about a quick release pedals. Or should I just have the proper wrench in the bike kit; I hate
the thought of cross-threading a pedal though. Pedals that accept reflectors
are a big plus.

Is it reasonable to remove the front wheel, and turn the handle bars 90 degrees and tie them in that position?

I would probably get a bag and a shipping-box, and I could tape or tie foam or wood blocks at strategic places. Later, after some experience with this, I would
probably build a wood frame over the bike area, so I could load other cargo.

Please give me your advice.
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Old 10-08-11, 04:42 AM   #2
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A folding bike is built for this application. Dahon makes lots of good ones in different wheel sizes.
Montague make folders with 26" MTB wheels.
MKS FD7 pedals folds and you can get pedals with a tool-free removal system.
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i did that for a while years back, but the bike, car and circumstances made it possible.

i had an old 2dr s10 blazer i kept a fuji folding mt bike in (still have the bike). folded i was able to put it right up against the inside spare tire and strap it to it. it also has folding pedals, but it wasn't nesessary for me. i lost very little storage area that way. the circumstance was i was single with no kids or regular passemgers. part of the bike folded came forward and took up the headroom of one space in the back seat, but i could still carry 2 people in the back seat instead of 3.


...now that i thinking on it, it's got me trying to figure how to keep that bike in the back of my pickup.
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Old 10-08-11, 06:52 AM   #4
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First choice would be folder...that being said.

I used to drive a full sized crewcab dually for work. I ALWAYS kept a bike in the back for use as a dinghy or for emergency use. Usually the bike was an old beat up Raleigh 3 speed. I didn't worry about laying it flat. I wanted grab and go. However I did keep it locked down with a long cable lock. Oddest thing to ever happen, came out of a store where I had been shopping and the bike was laying half out of the truck. Someone had tried to grab and run with it...made it as far as the end of the cable. Shortened it up after that and added a second one.

Got downsized to a regular sized truck, still had to haul the same amount of company crap, went to a Raleigh Twenty folder that could be tied down on top of the tool box. Went that route for about 3 years. Just got downsized AGAIN this time to a Honda Accord sedan I am in the market for a Brompton. I have a trunk mount rack that I put a full sized bike on or I put a sheet in the back seat and haul my Twenty along.

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I don't keep a bike in my car at all times, but I do sometimes have it in the trunk for up to a week at a time if there are multiple club rides that start at locations that are too far away to ride. I just remove both wheels using the quick releases (takes only a few seconds), lay the frame in the trunk on its side with the handlebars turned 90 degrees, and set the wheels on top where they don't interfere with the frame. There's still quite a bit of room to store assorted odds and ends in the trunk. This is with a pretty standard 700c road bike.
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Wouldn't roller blades ,or shoe skates, take up less room and weight a LOT less???????
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Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
Aluminum: barely a hundred, which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?
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If money is no object, then Bike Friday is the answer. Just describe to them the features that you're looking for in a folding bicycle and they will accomodate you.

Of course, with them, you'll have to order features "ala carte", beyond the standard.

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I keep my old longboard in the car. Doesn't do me much good out in the sticks or up a dirt road, but it's handy if you break down in the city, or have to park at the faaaaaaar end of a parking lot.
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I have a bike in my car all times. It's a Dahon Boardwalk that I literally use if I happen to be somewhere and randomly feel like biking. I also have a Dahon Speed P8 as my "regular" bike which I use when I go on "planned" rides. The Dahon is in a bike bag which cost me $20. I highly recommend looking into a folder.
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If money is no object, then Bike Friday is the answer. Just describe to them the features that you're looking for in a folding bicycle and they will accomodate you.
I have a Bike Friday and it works well for airline travel. But for just getting the bike into a regular car trunk I find it to be much quicker to do that by dropping the wheels off my regular 700c road bike. Using a Brompton instead of the Friday makes it much closer, but still a little quicker with the regular bike.
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I have a Bike Friday and it works well for airline travel. But for just getting the bike into a regular car trunk I find it to be much quicker to do that by dropping the wheels off my regular 700c road bike. Using a Brompton instead of the Friday makes it much closer, but still a little quicker with the regular bike.
Prathmann,

You mean to say that you can get your entire bicycle into the trunk of your car?

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Old 10-08-11, 11:02 PM   #12
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I usually keep my Brompton in my car; because the hatchback was filled with other cargo for most of this week, the brompton spent most of the time in the front passenger seat. (Wearing a seatbelt, of course).
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I can get my entire rigid 700c hybrid, Marin Muirwoods 29er, in the trunk of my car with the back seats folded and both wheels off, but I cannot fit much else in there afterwards. Hell, I've put two hard tail 26" mountain bikes, 17" frames, in the trunk of my car before with a couple wheels in the back seat.

One hard tail 26" bike and I don't even have to take the back wheel off if I fold the seats down. My 700c hybrid though is longer and I cannot do the same.

If you are going to put a full size bike in the back of the car, don't count on carrying much else unless you have a big car like a Crown Vic or something. Yeah, the pedals do contribute to the height since it raises the bike off the trunk floor.

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I can get a full sized bike with wheels and fenders in the back of my Honda Accord IF I put the seats down, but there isn't room for anything else. I have to haul stuff for work so a folder or external rack are my only choices.

These guys that are tossing 700c wheeled bikes in the trunk with the wheels off don't have fenders and racks and don't have things already in their trunks...Get the folder... trust me.

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I'm another Dahon Boardwalk owner. Best little investment I ever made.

I use it for a parking solution (if I have multiple chores in a given area I pull it out and only have to look for the one spot) mobility when my car is in for maintenance and spontaneous fun rides.
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My 60cm road bike complete with rear rack fits fine in the trunk of my Corolla after I take the wheels off. And there is still plenty of room for various other items. Full fenders would make it more difficult. My folder fits too, but doesn't really leave any more room for additional items - just depends on the shape of those things. This is without folding the rear seat of the car.
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I can get a full sized bike with wheels and fenders in the back of my Honda Accord IF I put the seats down, but there isn't room for anything else. I have to haul stuff for work so a folder or external rack are my only choices.

These guys that are tossing 700c wheeled bikes in the trunk with the wheels off don't have fenders and racks and don't have things already in their trunks...Get the folder... trust me.

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I have a subwoofer inside my trunk. It's about 13-14" cubed so it is not huge, but it does get in the way of fitting the bike so I have to move it around a bit.

My 700c hybrid and one of the 26" hard tails do have racks, but the only thing attached were U-locks. No fenders on my bike though.
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Several weeks ago, I did attempt to research "folding pedals", but the descriptions and illustrations were so poor, that I got frustrated and quit. Now, I can understand a little more, but the descriptions are almost non-existent, on Amazon: fd7 and one other all-metal pedal.
I could not even verify whether they are selling one pedal or a pair. I could not see the word "pair" or "set". Also there is no discussion of pedal threading specs and compatibility for the crank arms. I guess I need to read some more, perhaps from foreign sources, but I hesitate to order from non-USA.

Folding bikes probably will not work for me, because I weigh a lot, and the bikes are way more expensive than used
mtn bikes. Maybe, if I lost weight first, they would work.

Thanks to all of your for replies.

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I have a rack on the back and almost always have a bike on there, don't have a folder yet, and a longboard in the car. You never know when the need, or the call, will happen...
I have not noticed any large decline in gas mileage keeping the bike on the back.
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I have a rack on the back and almost always have a bike on there, don't have a folder yet, and a longboard in the car. You never know when the need, or the call, will happen...
I have not noticed any large decline in gas mileage keeping the bike on the back.
That might be the seed of a solution for me.
Could you share some facts and speculations as to why your bike has not been stolen from your external rack?

I was wondering if a car-top-rack were cabled to the car, and the bike were locked, it might last a few months. Alternatively, a car-top-carrier that totally concealed the bike, with lock. I hate to go the car-top route, because of parking garage, and other low clearance hazards.
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That might be the seed of a solution for me.
Could you share some facts and speculations as to why your bike has not been stolen from your external rack?

I was wondering if a car-top-rack were cabled to the car, and the bike were locked, it might last a few months. Alternatively, a car-top-carrier that totally concealed the bike, with lock. I hate to go the car-top route, because of parking garage, and other low clearance hazards.
Mine is on the back of the car. I run a cable through both wheels, around the frame, and the rack. Of course, with some work, someone could probably remove the rack but I set up a rider on my homeowners insurance and for about $7 a year I don't have to worry too much.
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That might be the seed of a solution for me.
Could you share some facts and speculations as to why your bike has not been stolen from your external rack?

I was wondering if a car-top-rack were cabled to the car, and the bike were locked, it might last a few months. Alternatively, a car-top-carrier that totally concealed the bike, with lock. I hate to go the car-top route, because of parking garage, and other low clearance hazards.
Don't go cartop if you want to have the bike up there semi-permanently - there are too many low hazards, from parking garages to drive-thrus. Also, depending on your height and the height of your car, it can be pretty non-ergonomic putting the bike up and taking it down.
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My 60cm road bike complete with rear rack fits fine in the trunk of my Corolla after I take the wheels off. And there is still plenty of room for various other items. Full fenders would make it more difficult. My folder fits too, but doesn't really leave any more room for additional items - just depends on the shape of those things. This is without folding the rear seat of the car.
I used to keep my Gary Fisher mtn bike in the trunk of my Corolla the same way wheels off and stacked on top. I was so nice having the bike there all the time.
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