Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 91
  1. #1
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Northern California
    My Bikes
    Raleigh Grand Prix, Giant Innova, Nishiki Sebring, Trek 7.5FX
    Posts
    5,804
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Bike Theft and Street Justice

    I am pretty much a pacifist until I witness things like robberies, muggings, molestations, and Bike Thefts!

    Hearing about it is one thing...Actually witnessing it take place with your own personal bike, just might be another story!

    Watch this:

    http://vimeo.com/6475675

    - Slim

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    SoCal T.O.
    My Bikes
    CAAD9-6, 13' Dawes Haymaker 1500
    Posts
    2,173
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    he deserved more than that.
    Cannondale CAAD9
    Quote Originally Posted by Beaker View Post
    I know but this is BF.

  3. #3
    Senior Member Paranoid.Guy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Somewhere
    My Bikes
    DHS Jumper BMX; RichBike MTB
    Posts
    84
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Would you call the police if you saw someone with a bolt cutter attacking the lock on your bike? I would tell the thief that the bicycle he is trying to steal is mine and I'd tell him to get his hands off it. Better don't use violence unless really needed.

  4. #4
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Northern California
    My Bikes
    Raleigh Grand Prix, Giant Innova, Nishiki Sebring, Trek 7.5FX
    Posts
    5,804
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid.Guy View Post
    Would you call the police if you saw someone with a bolt cutter attacking the lock on your bike? I would tell the thief that the bicycle he is trying to steal is mine and I'd tell him to get his hands off it. Better don't use violence unless really needed.
    Ever been so pissed, you just plain lose it?

    - Slim

    I'm just say'n...

  5. #5
    rebmeM roineS JanMM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Indiana
    My Bikes
    RANS V3, RANS V-Rex, RANS Screamer
    Posts
    11,758
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Pacifists don't champion 'street justice' or mob violence.

    They could have grabbed the guy and held him for LEO.
    RANS V3 (steel), RANS V-Rex, RANS Screamer

  6. #6
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Northern California
    My Bikes
    Raleigh Grand Prix, Giant Innova, Nishiki Sebring, Trek 7.5FX
    Posts
    5,804
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by JanMM View Post
    Pacifists don't champion 'street justice' or mob violence.

    They could have grabbed the guy and held him for LEO.
    I know! I know! I know!

    ...............It's just that I know how these guys operate. It's like a job to them!

    While I don't think I'd be inclined to hit this guy at first. It wouldn't take much for me to nail 'em if he cursed me or something. Any provocation at all, would be enough, I think...I don't know...Maybe not?

    - Slim

  7. #7
    Fat Guy Rolling dcrowell's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Louisville Kentucky
    My Bikes
    Bacchetta Agio, 80s Raleigh Record single-speed, Surly Big Dummy
    Posts
    2,439
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by SlimRider View Post
    While I don't think I'd be inclined to hit this guy at first. It wouldn't take much for me to nail 'em if he cursed me or something. Any provocation at all, would be enough, I think...I don't know...Maybe not?

    - Slim
    Do you know what Pacifist means?
    Car-Free IT Geek
    My blog: fatguy.org

    Bikes: Surly Big Dummy, 1980s Raleigh Record single-speed conversion, Bacchetta Agio

  8. #8
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Northern California
    My Bikes
    Raleigh Grand Prix, Giant Innova, Nishiki Sebring, Trek 7.5FX
    Posts
    5,804
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by dcrowell View Post
    Do you know what Pacifist means?
    Thanks for asking this question DCrowell!

    You've challenged me to take a really deep and introspective look into myself...

    I could easily replace my bike a hundred times over. I could never replace another person's pain or suffering. Material things can always be replaced. However, human suffering, pain, and trauma is haunting...forever!

    Thanks DCrowell!

    You made me think and search deep inside myself...

    - Slim

    PS.

    It's not really within me to hurt anyone, really...

    I guess all those Tae Kwon Do classes were for nothing, huh?
    Last edited by SlimRider; 10-09-11 at 08:07 PM.

  9. #9
    Senior Member Looigi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    7,585
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I presume use of the contraction "bro" (brother), as in "Don't steal bikes, bro." in the context of this attack is facetious, as the term "pal" might have been used similarly in the past. In attacking the thief, I would have been more inclined to say, "Hey pal, don't steal bikes." I guess that dates me?

  10. #10
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Northern California
    My Bikes
    Raleigh Grand Prix, Giant Innova, Nishiki Sebring, Trek 7.5FX
    Posts
    5,804
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Looigi View Post
    I presume use of the contraction "bro" (brother), as in "Don't steal bikes, bro." in the context of this attack is facetious, as the term "pal" might have been used similarly in the past. In attacking the thief, I would have been more inclined to say, "Hey pal, don't steal bikes." I guess that dates me?
    No...I'm afraid that words and names are nothing when it comes to violence and brutality. Names and words are dwarfed and shallowed by the inhumane treatment that one human being can impose upon another...

    You're not dated... You're reminded!

    - Slim
    Last edited by SlimRider; 10-09-11 at 09:30 PM.

  11. #11
    prying open my third eye kageones's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    NY
    My Bikes
    yes
    Posts
    73
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by fishymamba View Post
    he deserved more than that.
    I am surprised he didn't, 3 on 1 in NYC getting caught stealing someones bike usually ends worse than that, he got lucky.
    http://www.pedalroom.com/members/kageones
    My life - Jesus and tequila - I'm satisfied - And I can't deny it.....

  12. #12
    Humvee of bikes =Worksman Nightshade's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    5,286
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Steal my stuff I might kick your a$$ depending on what it was.

    Harm my family or close friend it will be a ............vendetta......against you and yours.
    My preferred bicycle brand is.......WORKSMAN CYCLES
    I dislike clipless pedals on any city bike since I feel they are unsafe.

    Originally Posted by krazygluon
    Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
    Aluminum: barely a hundred, which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?

  13. #13
    Tawp Dawg GriddleCakes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Anchorage, AK
    My Bikes
    '06 Surly Pugsley, '14 Surly Straggler, '88 Kuwahara Xtracycle, '10 Motobecane Outcast 29er, '?? Surly Cross Check (wife's), '00 Trek 4500 (wife's), '12 Windsor Oxford 3-speed (dogs')
    Posts
    1,222
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Old video is old.

    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ats-bike-thief
    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...teal-bikes-bro

    "Don't steal bikes, bro" was all over the internet when it was posted two years ago. Welcome to the now.

  14. #14
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Northern California
    My Bikes
    Raleigh Grand Prix, Giant Innova, Nishiki Sebring, Trek 7.5FX
    Posts
    5,804
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade View Post
    Steal my stuff I might kick your a$$ depending on what it was.

    Harm my family or close friend it will be a ............vendetta......against you and yours.
    Damn Nightshade!

    That's sounds just like the mentality of the Crips and the Bloods! Certainly we're above urban barbarianism!

    - Slim

  15. #15
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Northern California
    My Bikes
    Raleigh Grand Prix, Giant Innova, Nishiki Sebring, Trek 7.5FX
    Posts
    5,804
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by kageones View Post
    I am surprised he didn't, 3 on 1 in NYC getting caught stealing someones bike usually ends worse than that, he got lucky.
    I hope you weren't wishing violence upon the guy!

    - Slim

  16. #16
    prying open my third eye kageones's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    NY
    My Bikes
    yes
    Posts
    73
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by SlimRider View Post
    I hope you weren't wishing violence upon the guy!

    - Slim
    LOL I never said I was the pacifist!
    http://www.pedalroom.com/members/kageones
    My life - Jesus and tequila - I'm satisfied - And I can't deny it.....

  17. #17
    Senior Member eja_ bottecchia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    3,406
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by JanMM View Post
    Pacifists don't champion 'street justice' or mob violence.

    They could have grabbed the guy and held him for LEO.
    It is all fine and dandy to speak in the abstract.

    I too agree that violence should only be used as a last resort.

    If it was my bike, however, that was stolen I might be inclined to administer more than just a little street justice.
    My current stable:

    1989 SLX Bottecchia (Campy Athena 11s)
    1999 Cannondale F400 mountain bike
    2012 Bianchi Infinito (Campy Record 11s)
    2012 Colnago C59 in PR99 color scheme (Campy Record 11s)

  18. #18
    Humvee of bikes =Worksman Nightshade's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    5,286
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by SlimRider View Post
    Damn Nightshade!

    That's sounds just like the mentality of the Crips and the Bloods! Certainly we're above urban barbarianism!

    - Slim
    No false bravado or street gang mentality at all. I meant what I said.............

    Steal my bike.......big deal since I've got insurance for that and most everything I own.

    Messing with my family or close friend is a whole different story...........

    That is all I'll say on the topic.
    My preferred bicycle brand is.......WORKSMAN CYCLES
    I dislike clipless pedals on any city bike since I feel they are unsafe.

    Originally Posted by krazygluon
    Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
    Aluminum: barely a hundred, which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?

  19. #19
    Blissketeer HokuLoa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    1,335
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Violence breeds violence. People with tough guy syndrome are often as bad as criminals and often meet a "humbling" experience. Get tough with a bike thief and you might find they can be every bit as organized as any gang. That video could just have easily been one vigilante cyclist victim who decided to rough up the thief and then got jumped by the thief's lookout partners. Unless threatened with immediate bodily harm it is beyond stupid to take a simple problem/crime to physical altercation these days.

  20. #20
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Northern California
    My Bikes
    Raleigh Grand Prix, Giant Innova, Nishiki Sebring, Trek 7.5FX
    Posts
    5,804
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by HokuLoa View Post
    Violence breeds violence. People with tough guy syndrome are often as bad as criminals and often meet a "humbling" experience. Get tough with a bike thief and you might find they can be every bit as organized as any gang. That video could just have easily been one vigilante cyclist victim who decided to rough up the thief and then got jumped by the thief's lookout partners. Unless threatened with immediate bodily harm it is beyond stupid to take a simple problem/crime to physical altercation these days.
    That's right, HokuLoa!

    A G R E E D !

    - Slim

  21. #21
    Senior Member Flying Merkel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Costa Mesa CA
    Posts
    2,559
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by SlimRider View Post
    Ever been so pissed, you just plain lose it?

    - Slim

    I'm just say'n...
    Got to agree. Some a$$wipe trying to steal my bike and acting likes it's no big deal- I'd be looking to land a kick in the ribs with intention to break at least one. I'm a calm & gentle soul. I'm also human.

  22. #22
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Northern California
    My Bikes
    Raleigh Grand Prix, Giant Innova, Nishiki Sebring, Trek 7.5FX
    Posts
    5,804
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Merkel View Post
    Got to agree. Some a$$wipe trying to steal my bike and acting likes it's no big deal- I'd be looking to land a kick in the ribs with intention to break at least one. I'm a calm & gentle soul. I'm also human.
    Yes, Flying Merkel!

    However, in this society, if we're to evolve, we must take a higher road and not resort to the lowest form of human interaction____ and that's violence!

    - Slim

  23. #23
    Senior Member Nermal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Farmington, NM
    My Bikes
    Giant Cypress SX
    Posts
    1,877
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by dcrowell View Post
    Do you know what Pacifist means?
    Sure. A pacifist is a person who doesn't believe in violence - till the wind shifts and he hoists the Jolly Roger.
    Some people are like a Slinky ... not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.

  24. #24
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Northern California
    My Bikes
    Raleigh Grand Prix, Giant Innova, Nishiki Sebring, Trek 7.5FX
    Posts
    5,804
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Nermal View Post
    Sure. A pacifist is a person who doesn't believe in violence - till the wind shifts and he hoists the Jolly Roger.
    God! I want you to be so wrong about that assumption!

    - Slim

  25. #25
    Blissketeer HokuLoa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    1,335
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Nermal View Post
    Sure. A pacifist is a person who doesn't believe in violence - till the wind shifts and he hoists the Jolly Roger.
    LOL! Yo ho, yo ho the violent life fer me!!!

    Seriously though, it IS awful tough to take the correct, high road when one gets "hot." There is a time and place for violence (I think) but unless there is a real physical threat to "you and yours" escalation is a foolish decision. MUCH better to involve a sanctioned authority rather than go pirate and risk death and/or prosecution for a non-threatening crime.

    (The jolly roger image does amuse me greatly though!)

Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •